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ActiveFun 05-27-2004 01:18 PM

Oil Temps
 
What oil temp are you running with like motor??

540 c.i. with oil cooler, 871 blower (no intercooler).
Thanks

hugetime1 05-27-2004 02:08 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 
I say the hotter the better, 375- 400 sounds right, you really want it to boil and get thin so it flows through the engine nicely

hugetime1 05-27-2004 02:08 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 
seriously 230 should be good

gusman 05-27-2004 07:02 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 

Originally Posted by hugetime1
I say the hotter the better, 375- 400 sounds right, you really want it to boil and get thin so it flows through the engine nicely

SMART ASS :D

DannySixPack 05-27-2004 08:44 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 
between 40 and 105 degrees depending on the ambient temperature. mercury 300 EFI

Reed Jensen 05-27-2004 09:02 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 

Originally Posted by DannySixPack
between 40 and 105 degrees depending on the ambient temperature. mercury 300 EFI

Yeah.... centigrade......... The oil should be up around the boiling point of water... 200 to 230... anything above 300 and the oil breaks down quickly.. My old air cooled Ducati used to run over 350f all the time... great for deep frying chicken, not good for viscosity life though..... :blaster:

Strip Poker 388 05-27-2004 09:54 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 
On my last blower motor with a inner-cooler it ran about 230 running pretty hard . cruising it would be 160-180.wfo for a while would go to 260 then I would let out. But it was at 11 lbs of boost.I put 140 hours on that one and the bearing looked real good.At that boost the oil would fuel dilute pretty fast, Also the carbs was on the rich side [Safe mode] :D

My Hustler has a oil thermostat in it and it want go over 210.Thats what its set at. :( It would probably run cooler but i change my oil every 25 hours or after every poker run.

GLH 05-27-2004 10:20 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 
running casual I see 190*

Max I have seen beating is 220* but water is still cold around here.

DannySixPack 05-27-2004 11:13 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 

Originally Posted by Reed Jensen
Yeah.... centigrade......... The oil should be up around the boiling point of water... 200 to 230... anything above 300 and the oil breaks down quickly.. My old air cooled Ducati used to run over 350f all the time... great for deep frying chicken, not good for viscosity life though..... :blaster:

Nope that's farenheit. The oil injection tank sits in the bilge and is pretty much whatever the ambient air temperature is. It's mixed with the fuel by some sort of valve near the fuel injectors. Never gets much above ambient air. 2 strokes are kinda simple that way, just watch the water pressure and everything else takes care of itself.

as for I/O type motors oil temp, at a minimum, should be over 212 (boiling point of water). 220-230 would be ideal. I'd probably start to watch it carefully if it went north of 250.

ActiveFun 05-28-2004 05:38 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 
Cool thanks. So running at 240 with cold water temps would not damage anything??

Reed Jensen 05-28-2004 06:43 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 
Dang Dannysixpack... you got me... I didn't know you were running a "ring-ding..ding..ding " two stroke... :eek: :D

MACDAD260 05-28-2004 08:19 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 
Watch your oil pressure when you bring the motor down to an idle after a hard run. If it stays close to where it is when running at high rpm then you are OK. If it drops to 10psi or less when you bring it down then your temp is too high.

On my mine, the pressure drops to 10-15 psi at idle if the temp gets to about 240 running Mobil-1 15W50. Anything less than that and the pressure stays up. I put on a 3" X 12" oil cooler this year and so far it doesn't get above 235* and the pressure is good when coming down to an idle. Good luck.

DannySixPack 05-29-2004 01:37 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 

Originally Posted by ActiveFun
Cool thanks. So running at 240 with cold water temps would not damage anything??

Sounds ideal.

:)

RLW 05-29-2004 10:34 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 
Andrew,
What are you running for an oil cooler?
I am assuming a crossover instead of a recirculation pump.
Does the crossover have a bypass?
Are you using a T-Stat?
Russ

R Addiction 05-31-2004 08:00 AM

Re: Oil Temps
 
Stock 502 mag with (Gil exhaust) runs 200-210 normal cruise, then 220-230 when I'm out showin' somebody who's boss!! :rolleyes:

OldSchool 05-31-2004 10:20 AM

Re: Oil Temps
 
I'm running 502's (na) with crossovers, no thermostats. If I keep it around 3500 rpm's, my temps are 220-oil and 130-water. Last weekend we ran real hard for about 30 minutes (4500-5000 rpm's) and the oil got up to 260 and the water temp was about 165. When we let off, the temps went back to normal within 3-4 minutes.

Is that OK/normal?

DannySixPack 05-31-2004 02:35 PM

Re: Oil Temps
 

Originally Posted by craig223
I'm running 502's (na) with crossovers, no thermostats. If I keep it around 3500 rpm's, my temps are 220-oil and 130-water. Last weekend we ran real hard for about 30 minutes (4500-5000 rpm's) and the oil got up to 260 and the water temp was about 165. When we let off, the temps went back to normal within 3-4 minutes.

Is that OK/normal?

Sounds Ideal.

If you were going to run hard consistantly and for many hours (or many 1/2) sessions at a time, i'd look into an oil cooler. 260 is well within 'safe' ranges, especially when it dropped back down in a few minutes.

The trick with oil is you have to get it 'hot enough'. If it never gets above boiling (point of water) you'll never burn off the condesates and acids. If it gets too hot, it will gum up the works (after it cools down). If you put in an oil cooler without thermostats, with the usage you describe, most of the operation time would not go above boiling and that would not be good.

someone earlier described to observe the behaviour of the oil pressure when you go back to idle. This is a good idea as it really shows you when you've warmed up the motor enough for the pressure relief valves to come into play (which is warm enough).

-when the motor is cold, the oil pressures are high.
-when the coolant reaches normal operating temps but you drop to idle and the oil pressure is still on the high side, you still haven't warmed up the motor all the way.
-When the coolant is normal and the oil press drops significantly at idle, the motor is warm.
-When the coolant is normal and the oil press drops dangerously low at idle, it's time to think about better oil or a cooler

just general rules of thumb. If you have an oil temp gauge you don't need to guess. Get the oil to at least 215-220 before you put the boat away, if it goes way too hot too often, put in a cooler (with t-stats).

ActiveFun 06-01-2004 08:44 AM

Re: Oil Temps
 
Russ,
Hi. The Motor was just rebuilt. The oil pressure is 60 lbs at idle and up to 70lbs running. The oil cooler I have a Merc part # 816482T. Its for the Merc 800's. There is no T-stat and the water temp never budges over 100. The oil sender is on the port side of the block down just above the oil pan. Should the sender be at the top by the filter?? Currently where the oil temp sender usually goes on the oil filter bracket I have a oil pressure switch which is connected to my electric fuel pump. This way, if the pump doesnt sense oil pressure, the motor will shut down. The engine runs perfect. I just cant figure out while the oil temp is reading high. We checked the temp with a laser at the filter and it was the same as the guage, But I only did that at idle when the oil temp was low and never checked the temp with a laser when the guage was reading 240.
Thanks


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