WOW.. mini VS. f-150
 

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WOW is right. I drove one of those Mini's and it is like driving a go-kart...fun but not the kinda car that I would like to get a crash in.

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I find the picture hard to believe. I have wrecked and f-150 at 60+ mph and it didn't look anything like that. I hit pretty hard too.

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now only if the mini was able to pull 9,000lbs....

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Me too

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So I suppose this F150 was only doing about 10-12 mph when it was hit? Something smells a lot like sh!t. That truck looks like it was dropped off a building. As you can see, this truck took a pretty solid hit and the cab is totally intact with the doors still lined up.

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I'm calling -

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I have seen on more than one occasion the cockpit of the new F-150 was brutally compromised. So yes I can believe it.

Roby

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If that Mini-Cooper would go head on with that truck. I choose to be in the truck and survive, as opposed to be chopped in half while that MC becomes a convertible. But that's just me.

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It wouldn't surpise me. A couple of years ago, my buddy who is a contractor got his 7000+ lb E-350 PSD Van totalled out by a Dodge Neon.

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All depends how they hit. We get full size trucks all the time that are totally tacoed in low speed crashes. Last week we had a 02 tahoe that some chick did $6500.00 damage in a parking lot. :eek:

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I'm sure Ford could build a safer truck......if thats what the market place requests. But I don't think we want to pay for the extra engineering and it would drive up the cost of the vehicle. Is a Mercedes safer than an Accord? I'm sure it is but it also a lot more money.

I hate reporters that try to sensationalise this kind of stuff. How about focusing on increasing driver education and testing instead? Oh yea, that would require an effort on our part and wouldn't be fair to the poor and uneducated. Let's make the government and car manufacturers responsible instead!

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Tacoed? Tacoed?.... lmao.... is that folded up like a taco shell with occupants inside?....I've heard of "accordianed"... but never tacoed.... :D

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You like that :D A true taco only occurs in a hard collision with a tree, or pole. :cool:

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Its all about mass, it doesn't matter what the small car is its going to have a lot easier time than the big truck when it goes head-on into a wall. However I have yet to see an accident that occurred like this in my town. I also wonder about crashing the car without the side door in place. In the ford truck the doors are a very integral part of that structure.

Like I said before though, I wouldn't want to be in that ford if it was run into a bridge impointment at 60mph but up against another vehicle I'll take my big truck any day. My F-150 is just about exactly like that one, and it saved my life in my accident. Had I been on my bike or in my 300zx turbo, the SUV that hit me would have won.

BTW. thats about $14,000 in repairs, and still counting.

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I hate to go engineer on you but greater mass will create greater damage at any speed. More energy has to dissipate.

Remember the old E=MC2 thinghy in HS physics. E is energy and M is mass.

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What do you think the mini would look like if it hit my HUMMER........pancaked?

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Exactly, a Montero T-boned my F150, there wasn't much left of the montero.

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I don't know what the agenda was with that article but if your going to try to discredit a vehicle at least compare it to the other vehicles in it's class. Where are the pictures of the gm or dodge half ton trucks to see how they looked and in the stats of deaths per vehicle again no gm or dodge trucks listed, how convenient.

here are the ratings from the nhtsa web site for 2002 trucks: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/Cars/2002Pkup.html

and here is the link for the 2004 trucks:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/Cars/2004Pkup.html

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I was in a car that hit a oak tree square and wrappped it @ 75. Did not break the tree. I walked away, no injuries. And have been hit pretty hard in dirt track and demo ,and can say that with an airbag I'll drive either of those into a wall @ 40 to prove that its not fast enough to kill you. Any faster though and it prolly wouldn't be a good idea. :crazy: :crazy:

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I suspect the whole thing is just more tree hugger crap to discredit the safety of the large gas guzzling pig and Ford Motor Company. We all know Ford doesn't have our best interests as there number one priority but I think the above example is at best not typical. Remember when 20/20 or Dateline (cannot remember which one) ignited the Chevy truck w/ the side saddle gas tanks when they couldn't get it to blow up on it's own? Don't believe it unless you were there to witness it with your own eyes.

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Folks, you have to understand the tests:

40 MPH Fixed Barrier and OFFSET

The latter means it only impacted on a part of the front of the vehicle. Larger vehicles tend to do worse because of the Total ENERGY (Force) that must be dissipated across a small section.

F=M*V2 where V2 is the Velocity squared.

Bigger vehicles have a higher Mass (weight).

Also Note this was the OLDER body style F 150 not the new one.

Troutly also is correct in pointing out the survivability of a 40 MPH is far less than the 35 MPH standard currently in existence.

Wannabe

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[QUOTE=BGIII]I suspect the whole thing is just more tree hugger crap to discredit the safety of the large gas guzzling pig and Ford Motor Company.QUOTE]

Of course it is and unless you go to the poll and defeat their supporting party then bend over, grease up and prepare for more.

Roby

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Guys, BMW poured major cash into the safety of this vehicle.
Its one of the most rigid chasis/passenger compartments around.
They'd have to make it this way, otherwise no one would get
into that car.

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I can only imagine that if you hit a tree at 75, you would be through the windshield before the airbag deployed. I also calculated and if I'm correct you experienced roughly 21-Gs just before you broke through the strap of your seatbelt which you would have. :D:D Perhaps this incident can explain why you would volunteer to drive a car into a wall at 40-MPH. WOW. Glad you're still with us.

Roby

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I don't know about you Roby, but I ain't looken to get greased up.

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No,this isn't bullchit.This is true. The car spun off the highway at about 85 into the ditch and hit the tree square so hard that the roof actually allmost came off.I'm guessing the impact was about 75 cause the tree wasn't far from the road. The car hit backwards (prolly the only reason any one survived.) We in the front were not hurt. The seat recliners broke though. The girl in the back broke her legs and the guy in the back flew out the back window and ended up on the hill bout 50 feet away. I don't know about the physics of it just that we were all very lucky.

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If my 5000 lbs, F-250 hit a Mini head-on, the Mini driver would get a great view of my front differential-transmission-rear differential as I drove over him. :crazy: :crazy:

Two weeks ago my 24 year old daughter lost control of her '95 Honda Accord 4 door when it hit a rain slicked spot on the road. All four tires were in perfect condition and she wasn't exceeding 40 mph when it happened.
Car slid pass side first into a medium sized pine tree which contacted squarely on the right front wheel shoving it two feet into the engine compartment. The engine and 5 speed trans-axle were broken open spilling oil and gears onto the road. The windshield was broken and folded in two directions.
She woke up when the paramedics broke the window and she found herself laying across the pass seat with her head against the pass side door. She was wearing her seatbelt but had the shoulder belt behind her.
Don't ask why. She won't be doing that again.
She wound up having 8 stitches to put her right ear back together and 15 staples to close various scalp wounds plus a concussion.
She only had this car for two months and now it's totaled. Her previous car was totaled in a similar fashion by her boyfriend in January. Luckily for her she has, or had, gap insurance on both vehicles.