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boot 06-08-2004 11:51 PM

Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
Found this and was thinking about trying it in my motor home . Want something CHEAP , that works ,and isn't too loud ..... I don't ask much ,HUH !

Ebay link :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2481434412

INFO: The HANZI model S-195 7.5 diesel generator has provided electricity to thousands of homes and businesses throughout the world. Engine speed is manually controlled so that the exact voltage and frequency needed can be preset. Once set, the mechanical governor maintains the voltage and frequency to within 5% deviation from no load to full load. The alternator uses ball bearings on the main shaft, has copper windings for maximum life, and is driven by three heavy-duty belts. Four solid rubber wheels support the heavy duty frame for easy movement and reduced vibration. A 2½ gallon fuel tank provides several hours of operation, and is equipped with an electric starter.

50 years of manufacturing experience has produced this workhorse of diesel generators. Simple in design yet reliable. Easy to repair, each unit comes with a tool kit and most of the replacement parts needed for many years of dependable operation. Low-cost parts available by mail-order. A tremendous value!

Voltage 120/240VAC Single Phase
Rated Continuous Watts 7,500
Rated output 230V/115V. 32.6/65.2 Amps
Voltage Regulation +/- 5% (mechanical governer)
Frequency Regulation 5% (manual control)
Engine Cylinder Single 95 mm
RPM 1,800
Fuel Usage at full load 4 hours per gallon
Remote Start Capability None
Automatic Shutdown Control None
Alternator Type 4 pole, rotating field
Cooling System Water
Electrical Connection Hardwired Conduit
Size in inches (L x W x H) 52 x 24 x 32
Shipping Weight 900 lbs.


These sure are cheap ! Does anyone know about them ? Are they junk ? Are they loud ????

mcollinstn 06-09-2004 12:31 AM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
5% variation on frequency will put it 57-63 Hz. That's a little loose for some items.

It's fine for motor related stuff (A/C, Fridge, etc..) but will show up on the screen of a TV when other stuff kicks on and off..

Is it junk? Dunno. I would expect an air cooled diesel to be pretty darn loud. I may be wrong though.

Go try one out and let us know.

Scott B 06-09-2004 05:34 AM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
Belt drive, not a great setup..

Loud? Yes

Parts availability: Orphan

Amp rating: They give you the max output @ 115 volts, tho 120 is standard. Minor difference, but still misleading. Gensets are like stereo, most have a peak rating which the sellers advertise, and a true continuous output (usually a .8 multiplier) rating, or performance factor.

A v twin genset under 35 HP is not going to run an entire house if your including AC in the mix.. If your not, then a 10KW will do the trick if your not running everything at once..

Me, I use a 50KW diesel for mine :) Got to love that 300 amp transfer switch on the wall :eek:

boot 06-09-2004 10:25 AM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
Glad I asked ! Sounds cheap for a reason ...... Thanks everyone ! I will look elsewhere .

PS. I think the 50KW would be a little too heavy for my motor home ! That would be nice though ! I could rent it out to everyone around me to plug into ,and pay for my trip !

wannabe 06-09-2004 11:27 AM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
Boot,

Go for a Generac Home standby you can get from Home Depot.

They have Automatic Swithces, that start the gen. up when power goes down.

These swiches alone are $ 1000.

If you'r like me, the the power goes out when you arn't home. You need something that automacially does it for you.

Also, 7.5 kw is small. You want 12-15 kw to run the whole house.

Wannabe

Smarty 06-09-2004 12:49 PM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
Four gallons per hour seems awfully piggish. A 15 kW at full load should be about 1.4 gallons per hour, while a 30 kW is about 2.3 gallons per hour. When you reach the four gallon per hour stage, the motor should closely match a 45 kW. This fuel consumption rating is from Aggreko literature (generator rental company worldwide, they do not sell marine generators). A 7,500 watt generator (7.5 kW) would be a decent size unit for most pleasure marine applications in the 30'-40' boat range, if the compressor (A/C) start load is not too much. I am not familiar with this model you have listed. I hope this is somewhat helpful for you.

boot 06-09-2004 01:29 PM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
Thanks ! I am lerning alot about generators. There is much more to it then I thought ( Like everything else in life !)

Remember ,this is for a motor home ...... I just found out that "stand by " units are not the right thing to do . They have bad frequency like mcollinstn was saying . You don't want your high end apliances running from one of these units . Looks like I will have to bite the bullet and get a real "RV generator" . Mayeb Onan, Honda, Generac ,etc....... Prices are not too bad until you go diesel .... I think about 7500 watts would be minimum ,but OK, for my motor home needs . BIgger is better if the price is right ! Anybody have any ideas on where to get the best price ? Thanks for all the info ! Joe

skywaterboy 06-07-2006 04:26 PM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
THE repretation of these china diesel are not very good ,as I have been
reading instantes of 3 or 4 small china start falling apart after 60hours...
When your looking 40,000 hours that just does not work....
MY exprence and best study suggestion is to look into an Detroit 2-71
Diesel ,they are everything the china diesel people say theirs are but
much more ...
First of all they are American made ,parts are right here,parts are cheap
and you can get a rebuilt one from $3500 to $6500 with warranty and
can get WVO FUEL READY with a two tank system ,starting with small
petro or bio diesel tank and then after warming the WVO SYSTEM switches over to chead WASTE VEGIE OIL (wvo)at perhaps .10 gallon
while your biodiesel homemade could cost from .44 to .70 this works
great while ontop this ,the 2-71 Detroit Diesel is 40,000 hour rated motor.
Go to AFFORDABLEPOWER.COM

GOODT 06-07-2006 06:28 PM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
I get all of the I sell from engines1 they sell to most of the boat builders....

www.engines1.com

KNOT-RIGHT 06-07-2006 07:20 PM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
I had to part the dust in the middle just to read this thread :D

Scott B 06-07-2006 08:29 PM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
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I dont know where Aggreko gets those figures unless they are running a very inefficient unit. Last year I ran my entire house on a 35KVA unit, and ran a 30 amp service next door. I have a gas water heater, so that doesnt come into the equation, but I ran AC, lights, 2 fridges, cooktop,oven,washer-dryer and had 93 cel phones plugged in charging at any given moment (so it seemed, no spare outlets around) while using a maximum of 15 gallons in a 24 hr period... I even fired off the central heat one night when it was chilly (yes, I am a true native Floridian).

jordy 06-07-2006 10:32 PM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 
Wow Scott, a T-35 Terex huh??? I've got a whole fleet of them from the T-35 all the way up to a T-280. They've been good to me. I think I've got 36 units running now.

As far as the suggestion of a 2-71 Detroit, are you talking of the old 2 stroke??? If so, good luck with parts availibity and emissions regulations these days. I just sold my last 2 stroke Detroit genset because I didn't want to be the one without a chair when the music stopped in that game. Oh, and it was a 750kW with a 16V-92 in it. The ground would shake when you fired that sucker up. :D :D :D

As far as this thread, you get what you pay for. Personally I'd stay away from the offshore knockoff stuff because you'll never get your money's worth out of it. :drink:

Wow, this is an old thread. Skywaterboy was really digging to find this one and spam it up. :D :D :D

DJD 06-08-2006 08:29 AM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 

Originally Posted by Scott B
Got to love that 300 amp transfer switch on the wall :eek:

Scott, you should see what the transfer switch looks like in a house I just built for a guy. 120kw custom Onan/Cummins.
Dave

jordy 06-08-2006 10:31 AM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 

Originally Posted by Scott B
Me, I use a 50KW diesel for mine :) Got to love that 300 amp transfer switch on the wall :eek:

Gotta ask why you'd have a 300 amp transfer switch on the wall with a 50kW generator hooked up to it? At 240 volts single phase that 50kW is going to put out a max of 152 amps. 173 amps would be the max at 208 3 phase. Hope you got a deal on it because it's twice what you need assuming you can pull 100% out of the 50kW. :cool:

JETBOAT BRIAN 06-08-2006 10:34 AM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 

Originally Posted by jordy
Gotta ask why you'd have a 300 amp transfer switch on the wall with a 50kW generator hooked up to it? At 240 volts single phase that 50kW is going to put out a max of 152 amps. 173 amps would be the max at 208 3 phase. Hope you got a deal on it because it's twice what you need assuming you can pull 100% out of the 50kW. :cool:


Jordy....stop hating.... :D

jordy 06-08-2006 10:54 AM

Re: Does anyone have experience with these cheap diesel generators ?
 

Originally Posted by JETBOAT BRIAN
Jordy....stop hating.... :D

Not hating, educating. :evilb: :D

Stop stalking me. :D


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