Re: Who's Going to Win?
 

Good point

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42 fountain and 42 OL with stock 1075 mercs and 6s - that will be the only way to tell

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and the Skater Vee.............

So far..Spiderman( The Skater Vee on Super Vee class) has blown away every other vee bottom.... and been penalized with extra weight as a result.

Listen, I think stepped vee bottoms are dangerous at any speed over 100. But, if we must have a pecker length contest..at least invite all eligible contenders.

T2x

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that's surprising. I talked to one of the saleseman for about 20 minutes about their boats and some custom ones they built, which led into some of the used ones they know of for sale. I even told him I cant afford one of his boats yet. Maybe he was bored. This was a a couple years ago, i think the 2001 miami show.

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After the cubic dollars contest is over:

Take both boats, rig 'em with stock 525's, and re-run the contest. THEN: swap the engines and drives between boats and repeat. Overall average over the two sets of runs determines the winner.

Of course, if Skater shows up, there would be three sets of engines/drives and three sets of runs....

Re: Who's Going to Win?
 

No matter what Reggie is a legend in anyones mind, to each their own,
I still prefer a Cig 42 Tiger over any boat.

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I agree completely!! :)

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I give my vote to reggie,my next boat will probably be a fountain (no,not based on this showdown) P.S.-does anyone else think reggie looks like a someone from goodfellas? I hope mike from outerlimits doesn't end up in a shallow grave in the desert! I AM JOKING,PLEASE DON"T GET OFFENDED!!

Re: Who's Going to Win?
 

Ok,
So, OL had an additional 400hp. It also had to carry an extra 5 ft of real boat length, which would mean 8+ more feet of boat length than the Fountain due to the beak factor of the Fountain.

So in reality, it probably balances out.....

RonP, Fountain is running the bottles? :eek:

This will be one hell of a drag race....

I don't see anyone telling the NHRA that they should stop trying to go faster with their equipment. So why start here?

Good luck to both and please be safe.....

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[QUOTE=sharkeymarine]Ok,
So, OL had an additional 400hp. It also had to carry an extra 5 ft of real boat length, which would mean 8+ more feet of boat length than the Fountain due to the beak factor of the Fountain.

So in reality, it probably balances out....QUOTE]

sharkey beat me to it, Fountain 42 against OL 37!

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I would rather see fountain win. not that I have a love for the boats really can't say until I have been in one. Outerlimits would I ever own one would love to. what I think is really cool is the love for speed and to say they have the fastest V bottom. and the fact that. they are willing to do it themselves is awesome.rather then sitting on the sidelines and letting someone else do it. What I personally hate is when someone says I don't care because I can't afford one our must be nice. believe it or not Jealousy gets you know where in life. If some one is a stuck up snob is one thing, but I love looking at awesome toys. what I would love to see is say Cigarette and Hustler, Sonic all going for it that would be cool. Bottom line is Way cool Glad to see they are involved rather then sitting on a yacht counting their money.....

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Actually we kinda have some of that data:

OUTERLIMITS 42'

POWERBOAT MAG PERFORMANCE TEST RESULTS
Centerline 42'5"
Beam 9'2"
Weight as tested 10,500 pounds
Price as tested $795,000
Engine, cubic inch/horsepower (2) Sterling Performance 825 HP
Propeller Hering five-blade 18" x 32"
Acceleration zero to 15 seconds 62 mph
Top speed at rpm 109 mph at 5,900
Manufacturer contact 401-253-7300, www.outerlimitspowerboats.com


42' FOUNTAIN
To power the 42' Lightning, which had two steps (about 1-inch tall) and a modified V-pad keel in its hull, the builder went with blown and intercooled 1100 HP motors from Cobra. Mercury Racing No. 6 drives with 1.3:1 reductions and Mercury 18" x 31" four-blade stainless-steel propellers were mounted on the transom.

The combination was a winner. The 42' Lightning ran 121 mph and, in doing so, was the fastest V-bottom at our 2004 Performance Trials.

The 42' Fountain with 1650 HP would be pretty close. Of course what they bring on race day is a totally different machine. It's a dragster.

So Rio Roses got 160 MPH with T-1300's if I recall. A stock 42' Fountain boat with 1100's gets 120 MPH so you can see the kilo run boat is a raceboat from the get go. 1300's would push a stock 42' Fountain to around 130 MPH. So Rio is lighter, higher X dimension and obviously not a showroom boat. Now a stock 42' Fountain with T-1500's would go 140 MPH. So Rio with 3000 HP is a 170 MPH boat but he is taking out 1500 pounds too so that makes it a 180 MPH boat.

The thing is if Fiore is using a production boat with a canopy to make his speed then he has the fastest hull available to the general public. Reggie's boat would be a custom racing machine. Is Fiore going with a basicall stock hull and stripped down cabin deal? It would be nice to have some details to go on otherwise you don't really know what is racing what.

I would love to know the following for each boat:

Weight
Lamination schedule
Power and dyno tests
Stock or race hulls?
X-dimensions
Props dia and pitch
Drive type and any mods

Don't you wonder about that kinda stuff too?

Re: Who's Going to Win?
 

Hydro,

Again, OL 1650 HP total Fountain 2200 HP Total

They may be advertised as both being 42 ft, but we all know the Beak factor....The Fountain is actually 38 to 39 if you eliminated the bow extension...and of course if there was a swim platform, that makes the boat even shorter.... :D

Re: Who's Going to Win?
 

In a planing boat length is not critical as long as it is within a few feet. HP and weight matter more. If you play with the numbers the stock OL does seem to be a few miles faster than a stock Fountain. I do think the OL is a faster boat and yes without the beak that is saying a lot. After all is said and done Reggie may need to tweak his "stock" hulls a bit. :)

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With length comes weight. Especially if you're talking about full height length in the stern area.... :drink:

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Yup you convinced me OL is a faster 42'er

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A full length 42 footer anyway.... :D :D :D

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What do you think a 42' Cigarette would do with T-1500's?

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it sounds like Sterling is the company cleaning up :D

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How is it any different other than the deck and engines? It is the same 42 hull as the pleasure boats, the boat being used this weekend is actually the old style hull, the boats that they are building now are a newer hull than is under any raceboat now and is considerabaly better. The deck is different. They do have a new poker run boat which is even a lower profile than the current raceboat decks and looks even better. The last time I checked Fountain will put any engines in a customers boat. So how is it "nothing" like the ones they sell?

Re: Who's Going to Win?
 

"Charlie has only two ways home; Death, or Victory." . . .
< Apocalypse Now (1979) >

Hearing Reggie throw down the gauntlet in that video, I don't think he'll blink first.

Re: Who's Going to Win?
 

I'm bettin on the man with the bad hair and the big pile of cash behind him.

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Oh jeezus. Here it comes.

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And the hands down winner is STERLING!!!

On their website 1350 HP is the max so I guess Reggie gets a super custom jobbie

Nice folks too is what I hear! The only thing left is to go with Lycomings I guess!


Below is the biggest reciprocating engine built @ 5,000 HP
Can you picture Reggie standing next to it?? Perfect fit for the Bravo XR!

Re: Who's Going to Win?
 

Does anyone know if Bob Rusell is bringing his 47 or is it Just XXX?

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Wait a second...isn't this thread about the fastest VEE BOTTOM???????

I don't care if the damn thing is 16 feet long...... we're talking about max speed. Frankly, the bigger the boat is, the more stable it will be at high speed , all things being equal...since the SCALE speed goes down with size.

Stop splitting hairs.....after all 3-4000 horsepower will push an upside down motor home over 160 mph.....which is precisely what's going on.

I agree with C-Spray give them equal power and drives and let the best Hledin win.

T2x

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I think it will just be Bob in his epoxy 47

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:D :D

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I also didnt think he was running Sterling power?

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That's the way i read it. Until one of them claim to have to most efficient hull they can put whatever they want in the boats and hopefully all of this will benefit the boating industry some day.

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I have been in the old Ohio Steel Fountain and production Fountains and they don't compare to each other. I have never been in the Rio Roses Fountain but I have a feeling it is nothing like their production boats. Not trying to Flame Fountains but they are what they are, and for the most part they are production boats.

If I compare a new Fountain to my Cig their is no comparison. For the money Fountain builds a nice boat. OL on the other hand will build you the exact boat they are using to attempt to take the speed record. I could care less, just an observation and opinion on my part. :cool:

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I was in Rio Roses.

The cabin consisted of stringers, bulkheads and ballast tanks. If I remember correctly, the only way into the bow area was through a port hole hatch on the forward deck....

Re: Who's Going to Win?
 

I believe ( may be wrong ) that if you bring them the MONEY, Fountain will build you the exact boat they are using to defend the speed record.

Question: how many xXx-type boats have been delivered to OL customers ?
Disclaimer: just a question, I really have no idea.

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I think at least three :confused:

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Wow. . . must be some HIGH dollar rides. Was "Miss Sonance" one of them ?
God that was a fine-lookin, FAST-lookin sled.

And I only saw it on a trailer on Edinger. . . guess you saw it at Havvie ?

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Miss Sonance is not in the xXx class

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Fountain All The Way! 180+ Mph!!!!!!!!!!

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I didn't know they could remove the top, that is bad azz.

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