nitromethane
 

need 5 gallons. where do you get it? $$$?

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If it's the same stuff they run in rc boats it's 27.00/gal. and hobby store should sell it.

Not sure if this is what you are looking for.

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no. looking for nitromethane. like they use in top fuel dragsters. i know VP racing fuels sells it.

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It is the same stuff they put in the fuel for R/C cars, boats, planes etc.

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same percent and ratio?

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The nitro is a component of the RC fuel, just as menthanol, castor oil, synthetic oil(ie Klotz Techniplate), benzol (I'm showing my age), gasoline, etc. FYI I think the top fuel cars have backed the nitro content down to the 80% range.
Just curious, what are you doing with it?

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The Shootout at LOTO :D

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Redd Maxx 60% nitro

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nitromethane is mixed with alcohol , nitropropane can be mixed with gasoline.

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at what point can you expect to blow the heads off?

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What are you trying to blow the heads off of ?

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This is opening up a can of worms,But we used to mix Propyleneoxide with Racing Gas in the Old Days for the"Open Fuel " Class of Snowmobile Drag Racing .This stuff mixed at3% to 5% might work in a Boat ,But it Has its Draw Backs ,Corrosive to Fuel Systems and it also Promotes Detonation.Let Me tell you When We run this stuff in a 1050cc Rotax It really woke it up.The downside is that it is hard in parts.Klotz Used to sell the stuff. Here is an interesting link http://members.aol.com/FHSoil/FHSbrochure.html


Rob

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not TRYING to blow anything up. but it will most likely be my bomardier ds 650


or




the lawnmower :rolleyes:

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oh man yes...please have the camcorder handy!!!!!!!!!!!

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Cool ! "Richin" her up and let her rip!

and yes, we want videos

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if you mix nitromethane with gasoline you will explode before you ever get the motor started, you better do A LOT of research on fuels before you start fooling with this stuff. A lot of the chemicals will knock you dead from the fumes, others will add to your chances of getting cancer ( even in VERY small doses ) and others cause KABOOMS to happen, both chemical reaction and motors.
If you are looking for a little boost, try klotz's coxoc...... it is DANGEROUS, do not breath it, or get it on your skin, but it will give you a little edge.

RT

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nitroglicerine

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....and R/C fuel, as suggested above, is typically 20% nitromethane. Higher percentages are available, but once you get past 30%, they are much harder to find. Very few people that I know even use the 30% stuff in R/C's.

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one request.........you must yell out "hey watch this".......before firing her up.

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Where we live its "Hold my beer and watch this!"

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oh yeah I forgot that part haha....thats the most important line.

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You better get a video and also do it at night :eek: .Fire and explosions at night is pretty.

O yea the girls like scars and burns it shows your tuff :D


Chernobyl all over again :D

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I used to build the motor for a local circle track team. I did all the tuning for the motor,355 chevy, they always wanted to run power addittives and i refused(they had wrecked every motor they had in a few nights of racing before i started helping them. So a big race night came and our major sponsor was going to be there and i agreed to let them run some,i told them NO WITCHES BREW,buy something out of the national magazines,follow the jetting,timing etc recommendations. Well,the car owner (who always figured the best time to start getting car ready for fri night was thurs night after every parts store was closed) waited until thursday afternoon to try to overnight air some stuff out of a place in texas,well duh,YOU CAN"T OVERNIGHT AIR FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS!!! So,being the GENIOUS he was he figured,why not just go to local rc store and buy some nitro,it must be really close to what pro-blend uses?!! And further more,they had it in various mixes,20%,30%,etc,so he bought the 70 percent nitro,30 percent methanol (more is better right?!!!). Well,i was unaware of any of this,he figured a whole gallon of it to ten gallons of gas would probably be real good Too. By the time i got to the track in the middle of qualifying,they already had car back on the trailer,they managed to completely destroy the pistons,valves cylinder heads,crank,block etc. They had the gall to ask me what could have happened to the motor? I quizzed them and they said "we added A LITLLE BIT OF THIS STUFF" as i picked up the empty 1 gallon can!!!! I NO LONGERR HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM and the moral of the story is if you really want to try this stuff,buy some problend,jet it REAL rich and start out with just a little bit!!Smitty

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Nigel, dont be near my house when this goes off. I cant get in that much trouble again. Video tape it though.

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ok how do you post a vid? do you have to be a paying member? for the price it costs me to join up i could get another gallon of nitro :eek: :rolleyes:

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You can't just dump crap in the tank and run it without rejetting and possibly changing the ignition timing...

The exception, and one that may prove to work well for you, is some of the new oxygenated race fuels such as NuTec. On a 130 horse racebike these fuels are good for an additional 4 to 6 horsepower. You can definitely feel the difference.

And they are around $9/gallon.

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Call a VP racing fuel expert, tell them what you want to put it in and they will fix you up with a safe correct mixture for your gasoline.

I am using CP12 mixed with gasoline in my boat and it runs flawlessly without any fear of detonation.

The exhaust fumes will make your eyes water tho as will the price.

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Nitromethane burns at around 1.7:1 fuel air ratio.
Gasoline burns at around 12.5:1.

You CAN add nitromethane to gasoline, but it does require being "shook up" immediately before using. You won't see much benefit unless you run more than 10% nitro, but you'll have to jet up a LOT. Above 10% nitro, you'll also have to change ignition timing.

Nitro is pretty violent. And if you ever drop an intake valve running nitro, you'll likely blow the carb body apart.

Ten parts premium unleaded.
Two parts nitromethane.
One part acetone.
Some Marvel Mystery Oil.

You're good to go.

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Try VP C44 or C46 banned everywhere, makes BIG power

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porschespeed,

You might consider abandoning the search for nitromethane and consider an alternative like toluene. It will give you the boost you desire, is a lot easier on your engine, and you can mix it much more safely. If you really want to continue down this road of destruction I will be at the shootout and will bring you a couple of gallons which you can safely mix with gas.

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Toluene does nothing for increasing power.
It is only effective as an octane booster, which ALLOWS you to tune for more power but does nothing in the way of ADDING power on its own in an otherwise unchanged engine.

Oxygenated fuels DO make more power (with a minor jetting change).

As we all know, a motor can only pump "so much" air into itself. Cams and porting can help it pump a bit more, but it is still the main limitation. We can add only as much fuel as we can effectively burn and this is the ceiling on the power we can produce.

Adding liquid fuels that also contain oxygen act just like increasing airflow thru a motor (supercharging) because it increases the available oxidizer in the combustion chamber.

Nitromethane is very close to being able to burn on its own without additional oxygen. This is what makes it so good. At fuel air ratios as low as 1:1 it provides MASSIVE power.

Oxygenated "cheater" fuels act the same way, only on a lesser scale.

Toluene has an effective octane of around 117. Is not oxygenated.

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I didn't think you could mix nitro with gas. I thought a blending agent was necessary such as alky to keep the fuels from seperating. Some great stuff if you can manage it!

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I've run about a pint to 15 gallons of 110 race fuel, in my Hemi, it felt a little stronger, but boy did it smell good : ) I did not want to put too much in it, as I knew what would happen BANG! A friend put a can of Klotz in a big inch small block Mopar and at the end of the run there were no electrodes left on the plugs (and no rings left on the pistons!) Moral BE VERY conservative and pay attention to jetting and timing!!!!