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CHECK your Auto Bilge FLOAT SWITCH!
Took the boat to Smith Mountain Lake this weekend, and while sitting in a restaurant; a pretty quick and heavy rain shower moved in. It came in so fast putting the cockpit cover on was useless. I did eventually make it down and cover up the dash and guages, and went back inside and kept an eye on the bilge pump outlets to wonder when the Auto Bilge was going to kick on. Some time went by, and no fountains coming out of the boat. I headed down and openned the engine hatch, and water was up to the bottom of my oil pans. I reached down and could manually twist the 'axle' of the Attwood Float Switches to make them kick on the auto bilge pumps; however, they would not float up on their own. I removed the float switches from the bottom of the boat, by removing the three screws holding each down, and figured they were gummed up and sticking to the bottom of the boat. When I layed the float switch down into the 4 inches of water in the bilge, the whole thing would float around a bit, but would NOT kick on. WTF??
This is the float switch I have; two of them: http://www.iboats.com/mall/image/ven...g/23-42017.jpg Turns out, as water entered the bottom of the housings, air was being trapped in the upper portion of the float switch housing cover, and the float switch itself did not have enough floatation to overcome this pressure; and hence, float up to kick on. I would call this a factory defect/bad/terrible design. As soon as I bored a little hole in the top of each float switch housing cover, the air escaped, water entered and filled the housing, and hence, the float floated. I had tested my auto bilge pumps float switches by just manually picking twisting the 'axles' of the float switch, but this is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. FILL YOUR BILGE WITH WATER, and make sure they come on as they are supposed to. I did not have a close call, but I do not want anyone else to have one either. |
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Float switches are crap! They get clogged, rusted, gunked up, etc. They never work for more than a season or two with any reliability.
Get the new kind that are solid-state, no moving parts, just a sensor that sends a signal when it comes in contact with water. They're bullet-proof and last forever. Check them out in the latest powerboat mag. |
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The ones above are all plastic, and are working fine now, but man, what a crock they never worked right from originally installed.
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I hear ya, man...but I never had any luck with those things. A year is about the best I get out of them. It gets even better when they get stuck on and you fry your pump and kill your battery.
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Brian I am with Baja on this one. Get the solid state ones and you will be MUCH safer. I had my floats jam and it caused my boat to sink!!!
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OK, you got my attention. Got a link?
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The float switches have never worked for me. Often the float will jamb and the pump will run continuously. My pumps (white shoe boxes, can't think of the mfr.) are always coming apart too. Finally zip tied the buggers together so they can't separate. Of course, now the floats are not working again. What pieces of chit these pumps are.
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I bought one this year, just haven't got around to putting it in yet! :rolleyes:
Automatic bilge pumps |
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They sell them at Boat US
Jon |
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First thing I do is disconnect the damn things. I've had a lot more dead batteries due to them than I have boats saved because of them. :mad:
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And I thought I was the only one with this problem! I keep my boat on a Hydro-Hoist but water collects in the bilge after a hard rain. A couple of years ago, the pump came on after a lot of rain and ran the batteries down. Over that winter I hit the pivot with spray Gunk. The pump still works (It's a Rule). Since that time I take no chances on the hoist while I'm gone. I've got a stick that I slide down between the headers that rests on the flapper valve. I've never forgotten to remove it since I'm always checking stuff back there before I go out. Replacing the switch in my boat would be a nightmare. I always check the pump to make sure it's working before I go out. The pivot hasn't stuck since.
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TTT for one more pass.
Another picture of the bad float switch. |
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My switches are allso Attwoods. They are either always hanging on, not working or coming apart.
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Connect the auto float hot wire direct to battery.
Connect other hot wire to a switch. Either way you are fine. |
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Exactly Tommy,
AT and Sonic rig the Auto Bilge function to a switch. |
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Those Rule automatic pumps Milord listed switch on every 2.5 minutes, looking for water, and cost a ton.
The Water Witch was the first solid-state switch I ever saw, and came out about 10 years ago. There's a new on out called SensaSwitch that's smaller, completely sealed, reasonably priced, and has no exposed sensors. Costs $25 for small pumps (up 12 amps): SensaSwitch . I'm putting one in the boat I'm re-rigging now. In the meantime, I checked the Rule (not Attwood) switches in my Formula. They're vented, but can get gummed up by the usual bilge gunk. A good shot with a garden hose around the base of the switch, and through the vent hole sorts that right out... By the way, is anyone looking for a 1250 gph Atwood pump? I just pulled one of this re-rig job. It's in good shape, but since I can't get to it with the engine in the boat, I figured this was a good time to change it out. It's only got 170 hours on it. |
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