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SLINGSHOT 09-29-2004 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonto
APACHE
ENOUGH SAID..............


respect!

JUSTONCE 09-29-2004 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nauti Kitty
I can't argue with that after last night. One of my good friends bought it and Doug thinks I may have trouble with him in the rough. I told him last night that next summer we will find out. The new owner has never owned an offshore boat so I'm giving him the fall and winter to learn how to drive it. I told Curt last night we need to thrash him everytime we go out for the next 6 months cause there may be a payback we don't like in our future. Awesome ride. :cool: NK

I don't understand, How will you have trouble keeping up in the rough, other than the rigging of triples aren't both of your boats very similar 41 saber hulls.

thedonz 09-29-2004 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LEOPAJM
Like this one ??? :D


actually, I was thinking more along the lines of this one :D :D :D

thedonz 09-29-2004 03:44 PM

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Leopajm,

which boat is that in #42? who owns it and where is it located?

WickedWon 09-29-2004 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JUST ONCE
I don't understand, How will you have trouble keeping up in the rough, other than the rigging of triples aren't both of your boats very similar 41 saber hulls.

There's a whole lot more to making a boat "work" in the rough than people think. Trips, CG, X dimensions, throttle response, total weight ect..( not the driver, in this case he sucks :D ). The sweet spot in that sucker is right where you can use it when it's kick'n, his is the only boat that's really made me get REAL serious to run with ( note I didn't say pass) when it's been really rough. It's got speed that you can use when other ( faster) boats are choking on the conditions.

LEOPAJM 09-29-2004 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thedonz
Leopajm,

which boat is that in #42? who owns it and where is it located?


"FatBoy" is here in Cleveland Ohio ... I know it's been for sale off and on this past year. Motors are 1100 or 1200 or 1300 hp Gellners ????

not sure if the guy still want to sell or not ???

JM

Spicy 09-29-2004 04:22 PM

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Apache.... I rode w/ Brian H. from Delaware Bay Indian River Inlet To Ocean City Inlet back in '95 in some nasty water in a 41 Apache "GERONIMO", Boatpix chased us the hole way....... I've held the upmost respect for that brand eversense.

DirtyMoney 09-29-2004 04:32 PM

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What are you looking to spend??

Nauti Kitty 09-29-2004 10:54 PM

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Of the three 41 Sabers mine has the least throttle response which can certainly help flatten an occasional rouge wave, but I do have similar weight , a little more speed, big balls, no brains and a golden arm :rolleyes:



Well maybe not golden but at the very least, a somewhat experienced hunger for rough water driving. I still have a fighting chance and I do have that "extra" 2 feet in the water. :drink:

Nauti Kitty 09-29-2004 11:01 PM

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[QUOTE=TwinStepGun]:D :D

The key is, they both need big power! Without it, the Apache and the old Gun's are a different animal. No other boat compares to either.


Big power and #6's. That says it all. :D


BTW Sounds like you are buying for the first three nights in Key West. :drink: NK

LEOPAJM 09-30-2004 11:21 AM

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Parn ..... sounds like you guys had a pretty good time out runnin the other night !!!! This is a fun thread to follow ... for a couple of reasons !!! :D I'm looking forward to seeing FOUR Saber 41's at Smoke next year ! The triple boat does have something special when it gets rough and we all must deal with that here on the great lakes !!! Call it what you will , weight , sweet-spot, whatever .... but in nasty water , when it starts to get dicey for everyone , that boat is able to cover more water , more comfortably at speed than most others that have tried to give chase . The ability to "just leave" in the rough stuff provides a real sense of security and control ... to be continued as the new owner takes on a new crop of challengers on Lake Michigan !

Apache041 09-30-2004 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Havasu Cig
If you are comparing a new T/S Gun to the Apache it is Cig hands down. Throw some 700's in the Gun and you will be running over 100. Throw some 1000's in the Apache and you would be lucky to see mid 90's. Both awesome boats though... :cool:



That depends on what Apache you throw 1000's in.
This picture was taken buy a guy who had 700's in a Top Gun. Notice which end of my boat he photographs ( just kidding). This Apache runs 100+

JUSTONCE 09-30-2004 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedWon
There's a whole lot more to making a boat "work" in the rough than people think. Trips, CG, X dimensions, throttle response, total weight ect..( not the driver, in this case he sucks :D ). The sweet spot in that sucker is right where you can use it when it's kick'n, his is the only boat that's really made me get REAL serious to run with ( note I didn't say pass) when it's been really rough. It's got speed that you can use when other ( faster) boats are choking on the conditions.

Thanks for clearing that up, I figured the weight and balance had alot to do with it, with the extra motor. I didn't think about power curve and throttle control though. BTW: did you guys have fun out in that water with Wicked two a couple weeks ago. It was kickin pretty good out there.

O.C.Barry 09-30-2004 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CigaretteFirefox
41 Apache
The finest in the rough water

IMHO I Gotta say the FINEST in the rough is the '47 Apache. The 38 TG, the 41, and the 47 are all fabulous boats. But the '47 is a rough water hombre!

O.C.Barry 09-30-2004 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spicy
Apache.... I rode w/ Brian H. from Delaware Bay Indian River Inlet To Ocean City Inlet back in '95 in some nasty water in a 41 Apache "GERONIMO", Boatpix chased us the hole way....... I've held the upmost respect for that brand eversense.

I believe Gary Brightwell (God rest his soul) and I were in Jenny's Express next to you and Brian Hagan in Geronimo.

CAP071 03-06-2005 09:20 PM

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[QUOTE=bryanspeedracer] It's like Pam Anderson vs. Carmen Electra. QUOTE]


YOU THINK LIKE ME BUDDY :evilb:

DirtyMoney 03-07-2005 01:56 AM

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For close the price of Starchaser I could lay you up a new hull to your specs. I hope this does not stir up any trouble.
Beau Renfroe

Zero Cavity 03-07-2005 09:23 AM

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Apache 41, Period.

OldSchool 03-07-2005 09:42 AM

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I know that one day I will move up to a TopGun or a Tiger. But, In my opinion, the 41 Apache is the baddest MoFo ever built!! I'd love to have one someday.

How much is MM asking for his boat???

Nykamp 03-07-2005 09:55 AM

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41 Apache

LEOPAJM 03-07-2005 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nykamp
41 Apache

Ya think Steve ???? :D

ApacheCarl 03-07-2005 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nykamp
41 Apache

Yea !!!!! What he said...

29mirage 03-07-2005 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gmhdfan
That about sums it up. "Apache, If I had to explain you wouldn't understand" :cool: :)

AGREE!!!!!!

Back4More 03-07-2005 11:03 AM

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Well if thats only what I had to chose between then, a 38 Cig for 900HP or less power per engine and a 41 for 900HP+ per engine.

thedonz 03-07-2005 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Corrado
Magnum Marks 41 is for sale now.

really?

how much?

SLINGSHOT 03-07-2005 02:24 PM

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skater

LEOPAJM 03-08-2005 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by thedonz
really?

how much?

200

Back4More 03-08-2005 11:30 AM

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I think there is a tow rig included in that price...


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