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Old 10-11-2004, 12:28 PM
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Old 10-11-2004, 12:36 PM
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Apache is gone, why can't they let it die with a shred of dignity? Scarab is dead too but you don't see us Scarab fans hoping that Wellcraft will break ranks with Genmar and hire Larry Smith as president and chief designer.

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Old 10-11-2004, 02:09 PM
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I guess that Jack , Lucy and Maxines "Free Ben" T-Shirts were a good idea after all!!

D-Hlaw started this thread in response to Fightclub saying that the board was dead... and all of you fell for it!!


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Send me 20 of your bumper stickers.....NOT
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D-Hlaw started this thread in response to Fightclub saying that the board was dead... and all of you fell for it!!

Goes to show you, a smooth talking or smooth typing lawyer can get you to believe anything I hope he wasn't TUO, (typing under oath). I do think he deserves a "time out" for falsifying and perpetuating untruths via the Internet.
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Old 10-11-2004, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron P
Because Thad couldn't build a new Apache so they are hoping that Ben will go back into the boat building business and produce the boat that everyone has dreamed of for so long.

Do you think he had time to come up with a new set of plans or will he just splash an old hull?
I guess it would be a little difficult for him to ask Don Aronow to design and build him another Offshore Powerboat.
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Hey guys -- I hate to tell you that even though it was a joke, there is a kernel of truth at it's center. The Supreme Court really is examining that issue and many expect upward departures based on extraneous issues to be ruled unconstitutional. The only question then will be whether it will apply retroactively. (For the record, I expect them to be held unconstitutional, but the ruling to be prospective only.)

I don't recall if Benny was an upward departure case, but if he was, you can expect there to be further proceedings.

Just my .02...
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Old 10-11-2004, 03:58 PM
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Actually the ruling would have to act retroactively also..... Ben was sentenced pursuant to a guidelines sentence but many of the enhancers are questionable.
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Old 10-11-2004, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by d-hlaw
Actually the ruling would have to act retroactively also.....
I got $100.00 bucks that they find a way to say it is prospective in effect only. (I'd be happy to lose this one.) Remember -- They aren't last because they are always right... They are right because they are always last.
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It's great when two lawyers can agree.

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Originally Posted by CigaretteFirefox
It's great when two lawyers can agree and I dont have to pay 150$/30 min session from both for a phone call to hear that they agree.

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So what all is he in for and how long?

Hopefully everyone sees the innocence of a question....
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