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CROWN MAN 10-25-2004 04:29 PM

Witch 22
 
i WANT A 22' TO HIT THE SAND BARS IN SARASOTA & OF CORSE IDLE MY WAY AROUND.
CHOICES ARE :
DONZI 22ZX
22 SCARAB
BAJA 232
AVANTI 22

97BossHammer 10-25-2004 04:48 PM

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I'd either get the Baja or Donzi...both great boats. I have a 97 Boss Hammer for sale if your interested.

Sydwayz 10-25-2004 05:09 PM

Re: Witch 22
 
How about the Donzi 22 Classic?

berns29scarab 10-25-2004 05:16 PM

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scarab...awesome running and riding boat...but the 22 donzi classic will definately ride nicer

berns29scarab 10-25-2004 05:17 PM

Re: Witch 22
 
i had a 22ft avanti with a 454 mag that ran high 60's and i spent most of my time in the Barnegat Bay and the Ocean up here in Jersey...

BajaFresh 10-25-2004 05:45 PM

Re: Witch 22
 
Baja has a new 23 Outlaw you might want to check out.

berns29scarab 10-25-2004 05:48 PM

Re: Witch 22
 
i'd pass on the 22zx...rides horribly..unless your in perfectly calm water

tiufb 10-26-2004 06:54 AM

Re: Witch 22
 
I've had my 22ZX for four years, and it's been a great boat. No problems, good rougher water boat for it's size, good cabin space, and decent resale. I'd recommend it, and I'm not trying to sell you mine!

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Why be half assed, when you can be all ass.

DollaBill 10-26-2004 07:43 AM

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I developed a relationship with the manufacturer of Vindicator performance boats about a year ago. They are building me a 24 w/ a 496 (375 or 425 hp) that really is a nice "entry level" hi-po boat. Drop down bolsters, nice cabin w/ porta potti, etc. Will run 67-68 w/ 375 and 70+ with the 425 option. w/ a trailer and loaded for 49,995.

We are currently designing a 2700 model w/ twin 350 MAGS that should run 75+ and will sell for 59,995. I have a full page ad in the national yachttrader Ft. Lauderdale issue or go to buyafountain.com and click on new boats by VIP.

Good luck with your search.

Bill
843-249-1000

jjh3 10-26-2004 07:44 AM

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I assume you are considering used boats. I'm biased, but the Baja is a good choice. It is the longest of the group at 23'6'' l.o.a., and runs 60+ with a 454 MPI. It has a nice sized cabin and the boat has a very good overall fit and finish. If you can find one with the "boss" package, i think you'd be happy.

CROWN MAN 10-26-2004 07:46 AM

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Thanks to all.
The 22 classic would be my choice but I need a small cabin so my 2 little guys 4 & 8 can out of the sun or rain.
I checked the Baja web site, no sighn of any 23 outlaw. Here in sarasota Thunder marine would probably mark it up 5 times of the real price anyway.
Last may they listed a 25 out law W/496 HO nothing special For 86K.When u call they dont admit any mistake, they just try to get u to spend 86K.
BAIT & SWITCH!!!!
Any way I am thinking AVANTI .Are they made good? do they have a desent cuddy?

jjh3 10-26-2004 09:01 AM

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The 23 Outlaw is not on their site, but it is in the '05 brochure. I bought the new Baja 245. Very good deal, i think. 24'5''..4150 lbs...496 Mag, dual ram tabs, Corsa, drop down bolsters, etc. Runs an honest 65 and is good in the slop. retail was 63k w/trailer. My deal was @ 24% off that. Just another thought, if you were looking at new. Oh yeah, nice cuddy w/potti for the kids.

outriggers 10-26-2004 09:06 AM

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I liked the 22 classic also. But my wife likes to hang out on the sunpad. I also liked the swim platform and ladder on the 22 Scarab. Doug

302SR1 10-26-2004 09:28 AM

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Velocity,

Offered in OB and I/O configs

Very good riding boat for the size.

I had a mid 80's model with a V8 Johnson and loved the boat. Mid to low 70's and could run with all my friends in the rough that had a 26 or smaller.

There was a change in hull design some time along the years, but I'm not sure of the year.

There is a cult following on these boats and I'm told the older ones were better rough water boats, but dont know much more than that.

berns29scarab 10-26-2004 09:42 AM

Re: Witch 22
 
the only downfall to the avanti is the re-sale...and only because its not a big name boat. built right here in jersey...loved mine but was spending alot of time in the ocean...ya may want to consider looking at some 24's...the difference is huge not only in ride but in whats available..now ya have pantera, superboat, baja, checkmate etc...good luck in your decision. if i were buying a 22 i'd purchased a pre-owned avanti as long as the price is right

BODYSHOT1 10-26-2004 09:42 AM

Re: Witch 22
 

Originally Posted by 302SR1
Velocity,

Offered in OB and I/O configs

Very good riding boat for the size.

I had a mid 80's model with a V8 Johnson and loved the boat. Mid to low 70's and could run with all my friends in the rough that had a 26 or smaller.

There was a change in hull design some time along the years, but I'm not sure of the year.

There is a cult following on these boats and I'm told the older ones were better rough water boats, but dont know much more than that.


Roger-That!...awesome running boat for it's size.... :cool:

Wally 10-26-2004 10:58 AM

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Have you ever seen a Chris Craft Stinger 222?? Very cool little boat. nice size cabin. Mine has a 3 man bolster with center steering and two jump seats in the rear on each side of the engine. If you dont have more then 3 people going you can use the seat cushions to make one big sun pad....neat design and they are fairly cheap to buy if you can find one. :D

Sydwayz 10-26-2004 11:01 AM

Re: Witch 22
 
How about a 25 (23'7" overall) Sunsation?

Wally 10-26-2004 11:03 AM

Re: Witch 22
 
heres a pic of the sun pad on my boat......its getting redone over the winter so pay no attention to how bad it looks! :)

as you can imagine with all the pads inplace its a nice size sun pad......and with the sides removed you can make forward or rear facing jump seats! :D

robyw1 10-26-2004 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by outriggers
I liked the 22 classic also. But my wife likes to hang out on the sunpad. I also liked the swim platform and ladder on the 22 Scarab. Doug

Right on Doug, The 22' Scarab is the best 22 of the Bunch. I don't see what everyone sees in the Donzi. I drove 70 miles to look at the 22 Donzi before buying my Scarab and I don't ever remember being more disappointed about anything in my life. I mean I hated the way it looked, I hated the way it drove, It was rougher than my old inboard ski boat and about as fast. It was supposed to be built better but it wasn't. It had all the same gel crack as every other boat I looked at. I'm sorry but the Donzi has nothing on the Scarab and I later found out nothing for the Scarab.

Roby

mr_velocity 10-26-2004 11:16 AM

Re: Witch 22
 
I'd go with either the 22 Velocity or a 24 Skater.

rainmn 10-26-2004 03:23 PM

Re: Witch 22
 
What about the Sonic 220 Sportster? Anyone have any experience with these?
There are a couple online I've seen for sale. Cool looking interior layout, but in pictures, the bottom looks mighty flat. Are these more of a lake boat? The specs on Sonic's site don't say anything about deadrise.

rchevelle71 10-26-2004 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rainmn
What about the Sonic 220 Sportster? Anyone have any experience with these?
There are a couple online I've seen for sale. Cool looking interior layout, but in pictures, the bottom looks mighty flat. Are these more of a lake boat? The specs on Sonic's site don't say anything about deadrise.

I actually E-mailed them once, and asked them about the deadrise, they never responded, but I was just going to suggest the same thing. I drive by the old factory every morning(doller marine), they have on that wos out there this morning. The interior setup is awesome though, sit down with center throttle, small cabin up front.

CROWN MAN 10-26-2004 04:24 PM

Re: Witch 22
 
The sonic looks real good thanks for the pics.

Mudball 10-26-2004 04:35 PM

Re: Witch 22
 
I am surprised at the badmouthing of the 22ZX!!

I bought mine new in 1999 with a 7.4MPI. It ran 63 GPS.
Bobl from FTM just recently installed an HP-500 in it. Hits 75+ now on GPS!!

Rides rough? I don't think so. I bought it for the smoothness, relative to other 22's! I have driven Baja's and small Scarabs, and mine runs way smoother than they do, when the going gets a little rough...

The cabin is nice and long. My wife and I fit in there just fine, and there is even a spot for a porta-potti behind the door...

It is a heavy boat, though, at 3,800 pounds dry.

I love my 22ZX!!
Kent

outriggers 10-27-2004 07:57 AM

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There is a dealer here in N.J. that has a used 22 Sonic. (2002 I think) I have a few pic's that were sent to me. Somebody here might know the boat. I'll have to find a boat shopper to get his number. I liked the Sonic 22 but when I was in the market I couldn't find one with a Big Block Bravo. Doug

rchevelle71 10-27-2004 08:07 AM

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I dont hink they make them with a big block, and probably dont need it, they have a 350 mag with a Bravo, or outboard version. There is 3 or 4 for sale, one in NJ, one at the factory, and a few others. They are quite flat on the bottom(I would say 20* or so), which is the only thing stopping me, if I were on a lake, I would own one, BUT I wanna go outside the inlet every now and then, and the Wellcraft I have now with a shallow vee just doesnt cut it out there.

Phantom1 10-27-2004 08:35 AM

Re: Witch 22
 
It would be a Velocity for me. Here is the link to the 22

Velocity 22

rockstrmkr 10-27-2004 08:43 AM

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For me size matters...every foot.
Check out the 24ft Baja Outlaw. It rides well for it's size.
This one could be had pretty cheap.

rainmn 10-27-2004 09:07 PM

Re: Witch 22
 
The Donzi's & Sonic have one thing going for them that to me, is almost as important as the ride. I vowed never again to own a boat with a glued-in carpet. I can't stand it, and I don't think it belongs in a boat.
If it weren't for that, I would probably consider a 24 Outlaw. There are a bunch for sale within a pretty short distance from me.

CROWN MAN 10-28-2004 07:42 AM

Re: Witch 22
 
Hey ROCKSTRMKER if you still have it in April, look me up & let me know much $.


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