Cost Of A New Boat Will Increase
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Cost Of A New Boat Will Increase
It was announced there will be another price increase of resin passed along to the boat builders beginning 2005, let alone parts, other building materials and engine increases which reflects the selling price of a new boat...This is the third resin increase in less than a year alone. If your looking for that brand new boat,I suggest now is the time before the increase is passed on to you...If you continue to wait, its your $$$.
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This is an uneducated question, but, educate me!!!
What raw materials are used in the make-up of resins for fiberglass??
My job is to manage and make the resins for optical coatings.
I have seen HUGE increases in costs over the past few months from my chemical suppliers (anyone know anything about this and can help me out with prices would make me look like a GOD around work.... )
I've seen huge increases in IPA (Isopropol Alchohol), Acetone, Methanol, and MIBK (Methyl Isobutyl Ketone). Since July I've seen increases as much as 30% per Lbs. What's funny about this is that the materials I buy from Tokyo and Europe haven't been affected (YET!).
I can give you a cost breakdown of increases on these items increases tomorrow when I'm at work - it might explain some things.
How much of these chemicals are needed to make resin for, say, a 33' offshore boat???
The majority of the liquid chemicals are used only as solvents, suspension agents for solids during curing, and dispersion agents - to evenly carry solids for strength during curing or the chemical reaction.
I'm sure the increase is related to the increase of the cost in the US of all Organic solvents/materials (Pay at the Pump....).
Any one work for a chemical Co. ?? PM me.
Tim
What raw materials are used in the make-up of resins for fiberglass??
My job is to manage and make the resins for optical coatings.
I have seen HUGE increases in costs over the past few months from my chemical suppliers (anyone know anything about this and can help me out with prices would make me look like a GOD around work.... )
I've seen huge increases in IPA (Isopropol Alchohol), Acetone, Methanol, and MIBK (Methyl Isobutyl Ketone). Since July I've seen increases as much as 30% per Lbs. What's funny about this is that the materials I buy from Tokyo and Europe haven't been affected (YET!).
I can give you a cost breakdown of increases on these items increases tomorrow when I'm at work - it might explain some things.
How much of these chemicals are needed to make resin for, say, a 33' offshore boat???
The majority of the liquid chemicals are used only as solvents, suspension agents for solids during curing, and dispersion agents - to evenly carry solids for strength during curing or the chemical reaction.
I'm sure the increase is related to the increase of the cost in the US of all Organic solvents/materials (Pay at the Pump....).
Any one work for a chemical Co. ?? PM me.
Tim
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Originally Posted by Ed
Resin is sold by the pound. How much did it increase per pound? Ed
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I read that the eurpeans have already put into place laws not allowing large scale manufactures to use open faced molds.... and that it was coming to america soon
closed molding technology is really expensive and threatens to close down smaller builders
Ernie
closed molding technology is really expensive and threatens to close down smaller builders
Ernie
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I can tell you this -- dealers are going to hurt in '05. Fountain pricing has gone way up and our margins have gone way down. I am sitting in the middle. The manufacturers don't give a crap and there IS a ceiling retail customers hit in the market.
Now, I know many of you have had bad experiences with dealers (and there are/were some very bad ones), but the good ones will have a hard time providing the ever increasing level of service customers desire with their margins shrinking.
It is something that will affect ALL of us.
Now, I know many of you have had bad experiences with dealers (and there are/were some very bad ones), but the good ones will have a hard time providing the ever increasing level of service customers desire with their margins shrinking.
It is something that will affect ALL of us.
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I think that transportation costs have been overlooked here. The increase in fuel costs can be absorbed for only so long before prices must be raised. I`m sure that this isn`t the only reason but one that must be taken into consideration.
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One of our manufacturers/suppliers, after a 4%-6% increase in Sept. for '05 models, has just informed us that there's another 3%-4% increase coming first of the year. This is in direct proportion(they're telling us) to increased materials cost in resin/stainless steel, as well as transportation costs. I do know that it's costing $150.00 more to ship a boat from
So. Fla. to our location, than it did this time last year. I too, feel that It's going to shrink the margins that allow us to do top shelf service and follow-up: the very things that we all do to cultivate good business relationships with our clients. If the dealer has to absorb all the price increases (how much $^ can the public take?), it will be bad for everyone involved. It'll mean lower production at the manufacturing level, less operating capital at the dealership, and ultimately, lower levels of customer satisfaction!
Hugh/Offshore Performance
So. Fla. to our location, than it did this time last year. I too, feel that It's going to shrink the margins that allow us to do top shelf service and follow-up: the very things that we all do to cultivate good business relationships with our clients. If the dealer has to absorb all the price increases (how much $^ can the public take?), it will be bad for everyone involved. It'll mean lower production at the manufacturing level, less operating capital at the dealership, and ultimately, lower levels of customer satisfaction!
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