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HebertNecessity 12-24-2004 07:08 AM

F150 or GMC 1500HD?
 
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I need to buy a truck, for work mostly, but on occation need to trailor my boat(2/4 times a year. She weighs 8k-9k depending on fuel. ANy input would be helpful.

GLH 12-24-2004 07:24 AM

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3/4 ton. I.E. 2500 or 250

Again congrats on the new rig H.

Tim G. 12-24-2004 07:29 AM

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Go for the 15 HD... Much stronger drive line than the F150...

Trade that little blazer in to some dealer, far, far away..... Poor little truck!

O.C.Barry 12-24-2004 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GLH
3/4 ton. I.E. 2500 or 250

Again congrats on the new rig H.

Gotta agree with the 2500 HD. The 1500 or 150 is too light. I've driven the 150 and my 2500 HD rides better, and is better looking in my humble opinion. I've towed our old 38 TG all the way from Florida to Maryland. GREAT truck, has never dissapointed me.

Sean H 12-24-2004 08:09 AM

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if you have to have a half-ton, get the sierra denali truck, its rated at 10k..... :D

plus you get 4WS....... makes that boat disappear behind you :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

HebertNecessity 12-24-2004 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim G.
Go for the 15 HD... Much stronger drive line than the F150...

Trade that little blazer in to some dealer, far, far away..... Poor little truck!

That Envoy never pulled that boat, when I saw the rear end I said no way. The boat was shipped down from Michigan to Vero Bch I needed to move her before Frances. I drove back and got a F250 to tow her to safety.

The 1500HD has 3.73 rear and the 2500 has a 4.10, the diesel dosen't make sence because I wont keep it more than 3 years due to business and I won't tow much.

t500hps 12-24-2004 08:13 AM

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Just what is the difference between the chevy 1500 and the 1500HD. I have noticed the 1500HD's have the same wheels as my 2500 suburban. How does the 1500HD compare to the 2500? (orHD?)
Russ C.

Sean H 12-24-2004 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by t500hps
Just what is the difference between the chevy 1500 and the 1500HD. I have noticed the 1500HD's have the same wheels as my 2500 suburban. How does the 1500HD compare to the 2500? (orHD?)
Russ C.


i think it has the heavier axles and frame but not drivetrain? anybody?

HebertNecessity 12-24-2004 08:24 AM

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the 1500HD has Tranny coolers, 6.0 engine heavier springs, I see it as a 2500 with a 3.73 instead of 4.10. I hope R.Addiction chimes in soon and give us the facts.

The Denali has an 8k tow rating all wheel drive no 4ws, that comes from the brochure.

Sean H 12-24-2004 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HebertNecessity
the 1500HD has Tranny coolers, 6.0 engine heavier springs, I see it as a 2500 with a 3.73 instead of 4.10. I hope R.Addiction chimes in soon and give us the facts.

The Denali has an 8k tow rating all wheel drive no 4ws, that comes from the brochure.

they dropped the 4WS for '05, not enough people willing to pony up 3500 for it....

04's are 4WS extended cab 10k tow....

05's are crewcab, no 4WS, 8100 std tow, 9200 max tow, whatever that means.....

tows my 30 spectre everywhere just fine and it whips around dually's at the ramp :evilb:

HebertNecessity 12-24-2004 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean H
that is the 05's, 04's are 4WS extended cab 10k

05's are crewcab, no 4WS 8k.....

That sucks, I love the Denali look if it were a crewcab 4ws and could pull 9k + I'd have one.

Sean H 12-24-2004 08:37 AM

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i said the same thing to my dealer.... i wanted a crewcab 4WS..... :(

HebertNecessity 12-24-2004 08:38 AM

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R Addiction, please help here.

Dave M 12-24-2004 08:44 AM

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I like the looks of GM trucks more than Ford.

The 1500HD, with 6.0L/3.73 sounds great. I have a 2500HD Crew 6.0L/4.10. The gas mileage is terrible (13 MPG). I wouldn't want to use it as a daily driver. I think the 3.73 would help the MPG and still be good for towing.

I had a 1500 Ext. Cab 5.3L/3.73. I got better MPG when towing than I get with the 2500 empty. I'm only towing 5-6K though. If you are driving the truck every day and only towing occasional short distance, you may get by with a 1500.

My .02

t500hps 12-24-2004 09:22 AM

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If the 1500HD is a 6.0/ 3.73 then why buy the regular 2500? I have a 2500 Suburban with the 6.0/ 3.73 which sounds like the same thing??? It's tow rating is low, but it does just fine up to 10,000#. Is the load capacity different (ex. tongue weight?)

Sean H 12-24-2004 09:34 AM

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2005 Gmc Hd 2500 4X4
Axle Code Gt4 3.73 (opt) N/c
Axle Code Gt5 4.10 (std)

2005 Gmc Hd 1500 4x4
Axle Code Gt4 3.73 (std)
Axle Code Gt5 4.10 (opt)

Sean H 12-24-2004 09:35 AM

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2500 STD FEATURES 4X4 CREW CAB
******************************
Air Conditioning, Dual-Zone Automatic
Alarm System
Alternator, 105-Amp
Axle Ratio, 4.10 (Must Code)
Axle, Front: 4800-lb Cap
Axle, Rear: 6900-lb Cap
Battery, HD 600-cca
Body, Wideside (Must Code)
Brakes, Power F&R Disc
Braking System, F&R Anti-Lock
Bumpers, Chrome F&R w/Rear Step
Carpeting
Clock, Digital (w/Radio)
Communication System, OnStar
Console, Floor w/Storage
Console, Mini Overhead
Cup Holders, F&R
Defroster, Rear Window
Door Locks, Power
Driver's Information Center
Drivetrain, 4WD
Engine: V8, SFI, 6.0 Liter
Entry System, Illuminated
Entry System, Keyless Remote Control
Floor Mats, F&R
Fog Lights, Front
Fuel Tank, 26.0 Gal Cap (6 1/2' Bed) or 34.0 Gal Cap (8' Bed)
GVWR, 9200-lb (Must Code)
Gauges, Oil Pressure & Voltmeter
Glass, Deep Tinted Rear
Grille Surround, Chrome
Headlamp Control, Auto
Lights: Daytime Running, Exterior Cargo & Reading
Mirror, RH Visor Vanity
Mirrors: Dual Heated Power w/Power Fold, Turn Signals, RH Curb Tilt-Down & Inside & LH O/S Automatic Day/Night
Moldings, Body Side
Option Pkg-1SD (Must Code)
Paint, Solid (Must Code)
Payload, 3293-lb (6 1/2' Bed) or 3151-lb (8' Bed)
Power Outlets, (2)
Radio Equipment, Rear Audio Controls & Headphone Jacks
Radio, AM/FM Stereo w/6-Disc CD Changer
Restraint System, Dual Front Air Bag
Seat, Folding Rear
Seats, Leather Surfaced Heated Bucket w/Dual 10-Way Power & Driver's Memory (Must Code)
Speed Control
Springs, Front: 4800-lb Cap
Springs, Rear: 6084-lb Cap
Stabilizer Bar, Front
Steering Wheel Touch Controls
Steering Wheel, Leather-Wrapped
Steering Wheel, Tilt
Steering, Power
Suspension Pkg, HD Handling/Trailering (Must Code)
Tachometer
Tire, Conventional Spare
Tires, (4) LT245/75R16E BSW (Must Code)
Tow Hooks, Front
Towing Cap: 12,000-lb Max (When Properly Equipped)
Trailer Connector, 6-Wire
Trans, HD 4-Spd Automatic w/Overdrive (Must Code)
Transfer Case, Electronic Shift
W/S Wipers, Intermittent
Wheel Flares, F&R
Wheels, Polished Forged Aluminum
Windows, Power

General Specifications:
4WD Models w/6 1/2' Bed: WB 153.0"; OL 237.3"; Width 79.7"; Ht 77.0"; Curb Wt 5907-lbs

Warranty:
3-yr/36,000-mi Limited Bumper-to-Bumper; 3-yr/36,000-mi 24-hr Roadside Assistance; 6-yr/100,000-mi Limited Rust-Thru.

Engine Specifications:
Code L18; VIN G; Cylinders V8; Liters 8.1; Fuel Induction SFI; HP 330; Torque 450
Code LLY; VIN 2; Cylinders V8; Liters 6.6; Fuel Induction Turbo Dsl; HP 310; Torque 605
Code LQ4; VIN U; Cylinders V8; Liters 6.0; Fuel Induction SFI; HP 300; Torque 360
NOTE: EPA Does Not Rate Vehicles w/GVWR Over 8500-lbs

Sean H 12-24-2004 09:36 AM

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1500HD CREW CAB 4X4 STD FEATURES
******************************
Air Conditioning, Dual-Zone Automatic
Alternator, 105-Amp
Axle Ratio, 3.73 (Must Code)
Axle, Front: 4500-lb Cap
Axle, Rear: 6000-lb Cap
Battery, HD 600-cca
Body, Wideside (Must Code)
Brakes, Power F&R Disc
Braking System, F&R Anti-Lock
Bumpers, Chrome F&R w/Rear Step
Carpeting, F&R
Clock, Digital (w/Radio)
Communication System, OnStar w/1-yr of Safe & Sound Service
Console, Floor w/Storage
Console, Mini Overhead
Cooler, HD Engine Oil
Cup Holders, F&R
Defroster, Rear Window
Door Locks, Power
Driver's Information Center
Drivetrain, 4WD
Engine: V8, SFI, 6.0 Liter
Entry System, Illuminated Keyless Remote Control
Floor Mats, F&R
Fog Lamps, Front
Fuel Tank, 26.0 Gal Cap
GVWR, 8600-lb (Must Code)
Gauges, Oil Pressure & Voltmeter
Glass, Deep Tinted Rear Side & Light Tinted Rear
Grille Surround, Chrome
Headlamp Control, Auto
Lights: Daytime Running, Dual Exterior Cargo & Reading
Mirror, RH Visor Vanity
Mirrors: Dual Heated Power w/Power Fold, Turn Signals, Memory, Curb Tilt-Down & Inside & LH O/S Automatic Day/Night
Moldings, Body Side
Option Pkg-1SD (Must Code)
Paint, Solid (Must Code)
Payload, 2766-lb
Power Outlets, (3)
Radio Equipment, Bose Speaker System & Rear Seat Audio Controls
Radio, AM/FM Stereo w/6-Disc CD Changer in Dash
Restraint System, Dual Front Air Bag
Seats: Leather Surfaced Heated Bucket w/Dual 10-Way Power, Driver's Memory & Split Folding Rear Bench (Must Code)
Speed Control
Springs, Front: 4500-lb Cap
Springs, Rear: 6000-lb Cap
Stabilizer Bars, F&R
Steering Wheel Touch Controls
Steering Wheel, Leather-Wrapped Tilt
Steering, Power
Suspension Pkg, HD Handling/Trailering (Must Code)
Tachometer
Tire, Conventional Spare
Tires, (4) LT245/75R16E BSW (Must Code)
Tires, (4) P245/75R16E BSW (Must Code)
Tow Hooks, Front
Towing Cap, 9900-lb Max (When Properly Equipped)
Trans, HD 4-Spd Automatic w/Overdrive (Must Code)
Transfer Case, Electronic Autotrac
W/S Wipers, Intermittent
Wheel Flares, F&R
Wheels, Polished Forged Aluminum
Windows, Power

General Specifications:
4WD Models: WB 153.0"; OL 237.2"; Width 79.1"; Ht 77.3"; Curb Wt 5834-lbs

Warranty:
3-yr/36,000-mi Limited Bumper-to-Bumper; 3-yr/36,000-mi 24-hr Roadside Assistance; 6-yr/100,000-mi Limited Rust-Thru.

Engine Specifications:
Code LQ4; VIN U; Cylinders V8; Liters 6.0; Fuel Induction SFI; HP 300; Torque 360; EPA City 14*; EPA Hwy 19*
*2WD Models; 14/16 on 4WD Models.

Sean H 12-24-2004 09:37 AM

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NOTICE THE DIFFERENT GVWR'S AND AXLE RATINGS....... they wouldn't make a 1500hd if it was just the same thing with a different axle ration when they already offer that axle ratio in the 2500hd.......

HebertNecessity 12-24-2004 09:46 AM

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Thanks, I Think the 1500HD will due for me and save at the pump.

HebertNecessity 12-24-2004 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean H
NOTICE THE DIFFERENT GVWR'S AND AXLE RATINGS....... they wouldn't make a 1500hd if it was just the same thing with a different axle ration when they already offer that axle ratio in the 2500hd.......

The 4.10 is a must code for the 2500 6.0

bryanspeedracer 12-24-2004 10:03 AM

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I have a 1500 HD. Heavier spring front and rear. 3.73 rear and tranny cooler. It has the 5.3 and runs well. I have towed my 33 Fountain on a triple axle aluminum Performance trailer. It tows OK, not great. It is a little over the suggested rating and in my opinion, at the practical limit for the truck.
I don't tow hundreds of miles, typically around 15-20 one way. For that it is fine. It may be overkill, but I change my tranny fluid every two years (approx. 20k miles).
Mine is a 2000, and I love the truck.

HebertNecessity 12-24-2004 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bryanspeedracer
I have a 1500 HD. Heavier spring front and rear. 3.73 rear and tranny cooler. It has the 5.3 and runs well. I have towed my 33 Fountain on a triple axle aluminum Performance trailer. It tows OK, not great. It is a little over the suggested rating and in my opinion, at the practical limit for the truck.
I don't tow hundreds of miles, typically around 15-20 one way. For that it is fine. It may be overkill, but I change my tranny fluid every two years (approx. 20k miles).
Mine is a 2000, and I love the truck.

That what I'm talking about.

bryanspeedracer 12-24-2004 10:50 AM

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I bought mine as a wreck and repaired it. You wouldn't know it today and best of all, I have waaay less into it than if I'd bought one perfect. I'll drive this thing into the ground.

Bryan


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