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hugetime1 01-14-2005 10:22 AM

??? for all you home builders
 
what should it cost to build this?????http://www.creativehouseplans.com/see_the_c_510.htm

db39 01-14-2005 11:07 AM

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I'd be interested in finding out that as well.

My bf and I contemplated buying some land and building a home similiar, though not as large but we decided to buy instead..thinking maybe in a couple of years we'd buy some land in the UP of Michigan and build a log home.

We looked at lots of places & kits, saw a couple of floor plans/designs we really liked but were curious as to how much it'd cost.

Nice selection though....good luck :)

ratman 01-14-2005 11:15 AM

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a zillion dollars...did i guess right? whats the sq footage? what area?

hugetime1 01-14-2005 11:16 AM

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it is only 1700sq ft,

gusman 01-14-2005 11:26 AM

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are you sure that is big enough for a landwalrus, LOL :evilb:

lonestar382 01-14-2005 01:28 PM

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I know nothing about the Florida market, but here in North Dallas, you can count on a nicely equipped home starting at around $100-115/sq. ft. Now these prices vary from region to region, but that is where we are right now.

hope that helps some.

DISCLAIMER
It is nearly impossible for us to guess what tastes you have ie. what finishes you want, window styles etc. Those numbers I mentioned are an extreme rough estimate.

:D :D

Lonestar

Jassman 01-14-2005 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lonestar382
I know nothing about the Florida market, but here in North Dallas, you can count on a nicely equipped home starting at around $100-115/sq. ft. Now these prices vary from region to region, but that is where we are right now.

hope that helps some.

DISCLAIMER
It is nearly impossible for us to guess what tastes you have ie. what finishes you want, window styles etc. Those numbers I mentioned are an extreme rough estimate.

:D :D

Lonestar


Well put. Here on the Coast of MS, range all dolled up with 2x6 walls, 2 pc crown, chair rail panel, brick arches, no hidden costs between 115-130, just done right, you will find we are relatively inexpensive for the quality that is received. Jeff

woogie 01-14-2005 08:01 PM

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So many variables - type of soil, utilitiy availability, lot/excavation costs, basment, availability of subs in the area, etc.. Only real way is to get bids from locals. Meanwhile try http://www.building-cost.net/ They have a free estimator based on things like how many corners, geographic location, diff levels of upgrades.

epeek 01-14-2005 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jassman
Well put. Here on the Coast of MS, range all dolled up with 2x6 walls, 2 pc crown, chair rail panel, brick arches, no hidden costs between 115-130, just done right, you will find we are relatively inexpensive for the quality that is received. Jeff

Wow! you can build like that for 115-130 a sq ft ??? Holy crap, I gotta get
out of N.Y. 150-175 a sq for that quality!!

mwdill 01-14-2005 10:00 PM

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turnkey? 350k?

GLH 01-14-2005 10:06 PM

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Where?

and does a walrus sh!t on a solid gold toilette?

Semper Fi 01-15-2005 12:40 AM

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Out here in Cali, building a home by a small custom builder is approx. $2.00 per foot withall the nice stuff.

hugetime1 01-15-2005 07:36 AM

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you guys are funny, I have 2 quotes fron 2 custom home builders, and they are boath about 240k..

Jassman 01-15-2005 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by epeek
Wow! you can build like that for 115-130 a sq ft ??? Holy crap, I gotta get
out of N.Y. 150-175 a sq for that quality!!

Its a bargain here, thats why I love living here. Slower pace, about 5-10 years behind the times, great place to raise kids, casino's, boating around 10 months a year, tough to beat. We have alot of big Ind. moving in, alot of California people coming, build a 750k house, and pocket 1 mill. and have an additional 2000 sq.ft. Jeff

Shane 01-15-2005 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hugetime1
you guys are funny, I have 2 quotes fron 2 costom home builders, and they are boath about 240k..

You are too fat and WAAAYYY TOO STUPID to be able to afford a house like that! :evilb: :eek: :drink:

Chuck 01-15-2005 07:57 AM

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If Kevin can build that for 240K in Ny, I'll start a spec house tommorow!!!!! My opinion would be 350-400K. See ya Wed. Huge. How much to not tell Kevin your shopping him? (LOL)

Audiofn 01-15-2005 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hugetime1
you guys are funny, I have 2 quotes fron 2 costom home builders, and they are boath about 240k..

That is because it will blow down in the first hurricane that comes through and then you will be doing it all over again :D:D

We are building up in Maine and have been finding that most people even though we have cathedral ceilings they count the open area as sq footage that is not counted in the plans. So you pay more.... For our place that is going to be aprox 1800 sqft living space they are calling it 2300 sqft for the build costs. We are at about 300K finished done high end post and beam. I am sure this will go up as we build........ Who ever you pick make sure you go to houses that are being built at all stages, and finished if you can. I have noticed some builders houses look great the day the owner moves in but a year later they look like holly hell. Are the job sites clean, do all the nails hit the frame, are joints tight/even and so on.

Jon

epeek 01-15-2005 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck
If Kevin can build that for 240K in Ny, I'll start a spec house tommorow!!!!! My opinion would be 350-400K. See ya Wed. Huge. How much to not tell Kevin your shopping him? (LOL)

That sounds about right. Dont forget about site work. It can go thru the
roof if you have to blast. my lake house is similar and was in that ballpark.

thedonz 01-15-2005 11:49 AM

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dang,..location, location....that house here would easily be a couple mil

thedonz 01-15-2005 11:51 AM

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oh, sorry, misread....you're just talking building costs.....

hugetime1 01-15-2005 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck
If Kevin can build that for 240K in Ny, I'll start a spec house tommorow!!!!! My opinion would be 350-400K. See ya Wed. Huge. How much to not tell Kevin your shopping him? (LOL)

chuck, that quote came from kevin, he is gonna build my new home, keep in mind that doesn't include the land, I just was curious about building cost! also keep in mind it is only 1700 sq ft, 240 is not really low, and yes I will see ya wednesday, and don't listen to shane, I was in front all day

Outdrive1 01-15-2005 06:13 PM

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I dont know what the building materials cost in your area, (concrete, lumber) but the actual cost to build a 2 x 6 home in Az. with decent upgrades, tile roof, midrange flooring should be in the 75/85 dollar a square foot range, thats assuming you have a standard size garage and porch included. No septic tank etc. A contractor is normally going to charge around 30/40 for his fee. That doesn't include extras like marble or granite counter tops, hard wood (or any premium flooring), built in wall units etc.
My business partner and I built a custom 3500 sq ft home (almost 5000 under roof) to sell 3 years ago for 220,000 turnkey(not including the lot). that was about 63.00 a square foot. 2 fire places, corian counter tops, full lengh porch, septic tank,wet bar, 3 car oversized garage, tile roof, 18" tile through-out. Since that time concrete has almost doubled, lumber has almost doubled, labor and other materials haven't changed much, permits are the same.
We did another one last year, same floor plan, and it was almost 78.00 a square foot.
We originally purchased 5 lots so we have three to go, its a good thing we did because the lots have almost doubled!!!!

To make my point, 120/130 a square foot is not too much, make sure you get a good flooring allowance and everything else you want in a contract, make sure the builder has a contractors license, check him for complaints, and go look at some of his work.

DJD 01-15-2005 09:18 PM

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Good Golly!!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe how prices vary around the country.
I design/build large custom homes in the Greenwich CT area as well as into Westchester CO. NY area.
I can't touch anything for under $250 per sq. foot. Add in the brick or stone siding, slate roof, heavy trim package (add a $40,000 allowance for appliances just as an example) & were talking $300-400 per foot depending on alot of variables :eek: :drink: :D

Mentalpause 01-15-2005 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jassman
Well put. Here on the Coast of MS, range all dolled up with 2x6 walls, 2 pc crown, chair rail panel, brick arches, no hidden costs between 115-130, just done right, you will find we are relatively inexpensive for the quality that is received. Jeff

Jeff, is this one of the homes you built? Very nice!

Build me one of those at LOTO. :D :D :D

And a couple more and you can sign the dotted line....

epeek 01-15-2005 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJD
Good Golly!!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe how prices vary around the country.
I design/build large custom homes in the Greenwich CT area as well as into Westchester CO. NY area.
I can't touch anything for under $250 per sq. foot. Add in the brick or stone siding, slate roof, heavy trim package (add a $40,000 allowance for appliances just as an example) & were talking $300-400 per foot depending on alot of variables :eek: :drink: :D

The labor and cost of doing business are killer in the Northeast. :(

GLH 01-15-2005 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by epeek
The labor and cost of doing business are killer in the Northeast. :(

Your right Rick. My next home I'm setting up a team and we'll do everything. A-Z...

Back in Canada I had never built a house in more than 3 month (one in 28 days) and here freakn nobody shows up you can't plane crap....

epeek 01-15-2005 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GLH
Your right Rick. My next home I'm setting up a team and we'll do everything. A-Z...

Back in Canada I had never built a house in more than 3 month (one in 28 days) and here freakn nobody shows up you can't plane crap....

Ah.... the northeast.....land of the unemployables. Pay them 20.00 per hr.
still cant get them to show up for work. Half of them you have to wake them
up and drive them to the site yourself. Ya know,because they cant afford
a car because they cant live on a grand a week. Ya know , the money is
for the important things, like crack,cigarettes,beer,playin the horses and
pot. The major staples in their lives.

buckknekkid 01-16-2005 06:05 AM

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amen tu yuh bro . my men all complain but try to get them to produce is something else. lazy overpaid ascholes.

bouyhunter 01-16-2005 07:05 AM

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Since that time concrete has almost doubled, lumber has almost doubled, labor and other materials haven't changed much, permits are the same.
That's why I got out of the building business, material costs go up and you have to sell your labor low.
Why can't a contractor get away with telling the customer "well, sorry , labor cost's are up" customer's understand material cost's fluctuating, why is it different with labor?

What happens when fuel cost's go up? we just pay it and b*tch about it. But labor cost's always stay the same - no matter what the industry.

I think I'll go into work tommorrow and tell my boss that over the weekend the cost of Purchasing/Logistic Mgr's went up by $20,000 a year - Maybe then I can afford a used boat.



Sorry everyone, I'm just venting, and in one helluva mood this morning...

To answer the question, I'd base about $120-130 sq ft to do it right, go less than that and you'll have a new house that doesn't have the "nice" things in it (nice countertops, lighting fixtures, plumbing, good flooring/carpet, etc.)

Maybe not the right thread to vent on, but, had to get it off my chest.

Good luck if you decide to build, I'd be glad to help you any way I can.

mcollinstn 01-16-2005 07:43 AM

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I back a couple of small builders, but I still don't understand much about house costs.

For example, in my area, a step-up home (usually a person's third home purchase, with appx 2000sf, island kitchen, drop in fireplace, hardwood den, decent moulding in the formal rooms, and a 2 car garage) has a COST (to the builder) of around $100 a foot.

30 miles away, the same home has a COST of around $80 a foot.

In some of you guys' areas if could have a cost of $65 a foot, up to $175 a foot.

WHY?

bouyhunter 01-16-2005 07:50 AM

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mcollinstn,
I haven't figured it out either, and I spent 15 years as a GC. There are additional expenses due to land and certain neighborhood's. Think about hauling garbage from the site, and the neighborhood around, depending how "frumpy" this can be a pain in the A$$

Audiofn 01-16-2005 08:36 AM

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Location Location Location.

How about 14,000sqft for 14,000,000 or 18,000sqft for 26,000,000. Oh that does not include the 5.8 mill cost of land and house that you just tear down. The cost of houseing in the last few years in this area is out of control. It is forcing people to stay in apartments as an only option. My "trailer" as GLH likes to refer to it, if I lived in most parts of the country would have been about 50K-100K in MA it was 3 times that. One of the reasons, cost of labor and insurance. I wish I could hire anyone for 20 bucks a hour. Any less then that and you get oh sorry boss I slept in late I was at a killer rave last night, Or Hey boss can I have an advance I have to pay my child sapport, or hey boss I got a DUI last night so I need a ride and on and on and on. I HOPE that I can build my place or less then all these numbers that I am seeing. Time will tell.

Jon


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