konrad inner transom plate
 

i had this made up for my trs a while back before konrads were introduced. it weighs aroud 14 lbs ,would the konrad be lighter ? i have external steering and dry pipes. what kinda price for the konrad inner plate?? any pics? the site doesn't show any inner pics.

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Open72, does your transom plate's dimensions differ from a stock TRS inner plate? The ears for your plate look like they might be a bit longer, but the photo might be deceiving.

Provided your application on the inside of the transom uses standard TRS components (other than the transom plate), such as the tranny tailstock, a Konrad outer transom assy should bolt right up. When they did my application, they just unbolted the transom assy studs and slid out the TRS transom assy, and plugged the Konrad outer transom assy in place. All this while the motors, tranny's and inner transom plate were in place. These guys must be contortionists to be able to get to transom assy nuts on the inside, but they made it work.

As long as your tailstock output ends up in the same place as it would with a stock TRS inner plate, you should be in good shape for a Konrad outer transom assy.

Fred Sparling is Konrad's application engineer. He's FSPROPELLOR on this board. I'll call him and ask him to chime in with additional info.

BTW, that's a nice looking plate you've made.

Brian

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That is a nice piece.However you is a pimp look at that the flat screen Tv in the kitchen?Dam must be nice.Just messin with ya.At least you have stopped screwing off and are doing something with the boat again

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p4-33


the ears are correct , i did the mock up with the motor,trans, tailstock.i tacked the bar stock (ears) pulled off , welded up and re installed and then drilled out the 2 holes for the tailstock. alot of work :D going to put the drive bottle at the top. post a pic if you can , i would like to see the konrad.


your only a pimp when it's a 30" in the kitchen. :crazy::crazy:;)

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Open72,

In that case, you're in good shape with the inner transom. Just bolt-and-go.

Here's a picture of how I did my drive bottle. Sorry about the pic, it was taken with my cell phone...

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Here's a couple of pics just after my maiden voyage at the Konrad factory. Note I don't have nosecones on these lowers....

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Here's a couple more after I installed the lowers with the in-cast nose cones...

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One more pic showing my drive reservior bottles hanging off my remote oil filters. This makes them much more accessible than having them back on the transom...

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...and having some fun.

Let me know if there is anything thing I can help you with.

Brian

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sweet , real sweet :cool: i for some reason was thinking that the konrad plate didn't have provisions for steering . i wanted a real clean look when i came up with the idea. the drive bottle is a great idea where you located it. i will step up to a konrad in the future if i toast the trs :D i will know the toast factor in a few weeks. the motor is being assembled and will be dynoed after miami show. i still have a few parts to paint and get to precision. they speculate hp power will be right around 600 give or take. marks cam has a little more lift than the "731" i am erring on the side of a "little less" but , it will be a tourqe maker that's for sure. :D :cool: that's what moves - tourqe :fish:

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Brian,
Did you see any difference with the new lower. I see you took the spacer out also.
What performance gains did you achieve?

Mark

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good thinking on the quick connects on the steering . i have these jiffy tites for the quick connect on the pre-luber lines. one for the feed other for the oil change line.

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Thanks Open72. There are vast differences in steering setups on boats... inside rams, outside rams, Latham, Marine Machine, IMCO, etc, etc. Konrad custom-makes the back plate for the drive to work with whatever setup you have. This all comes out of the "discovery" process on the front end of the sale, working with their application engineers. Once they understand what is required, their machinists can do just about anything.

MrCig, the first of the tuning exercises was to play with spacers. A TRS is 1.68" longer than a Konrad, so they have 1.68" spacers, as well as 1" and 1/2". We started with 1" and got the same speed as my TRS setup - a bit over 79mph. Keep in mind that the Konrad uses 1 1/4" XR style propshafts, so we were working with a different set of props, too... multiple variables. The first set of XR style props we tried was a 26" P-5x Hydromotive. I usually ran a 28" Quad IV. Even tho my top speed was the same, the props felt sluggish from 60-75mph.

Moving up to a 1/2" spacer gave me right at 80, but still sluggish acceleration. We attributed this to the 5-blade setup at the wrong pitch, so I shipped my 28's off to Throttle-Up for a hub change and and tune-up.

Wow! What a difference the 28's made. 60-75mph acceleration went from 13 secs to 7! Top speed was 81.5mph. So I removed the 1/2" spacer, and gained another 1/2mph, to a solid 82.

A couple months later, Konrad introduced their in-cast nosecone lower. With these, I gained another 1 1/2mph and now run 83.5 with the 28" Hydro's at 5200rpm. Doing the math, I think this works out to about 8% slip. I use this as my "fast" setup for general cruising and poker runs.

Seeing that APBA limits P4 speeds to 80mph, I run 25" Hydro P-5x's for my race setup, which puts me at 79.6 or so, @5500 rpm. The 25" blades also give me a great bite thru and out of the corners.

I understand that Cigarettes, being a heavier boat, with TRS setups are often under-propped to help drives live longer. The beauty of a TRS/Konrad conversion on a Cig is that you're able to prop the boat more accurately because drive failure is taken out of the equation. Higher drive heights, along with a sleeker lower case, and the correct prop has netted a couple Cig/Konrad owners 5 mph on the top end.

Hope this helps.
Brian

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Brian,

Great info and breakdown!!

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Thanks for the info Brian

Mark