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JCPERF 01-30-2005 09:50 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Sean H
and the dude in the viper was getting a handjob from a crackwhore... stupid dodges.. :evilb: :D

That was Masher. :D :eek:

Sean H 01-30-2005 09:52 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Pantera1
You tellin me youd rather have a strung out toyota than a viper


yes, yes i would.... you couldn't give me a viper, well maybe if it came with the Mr. T starter kit and a jogging suit..... :rolleyes:

Pantera1 01-30-2005 09:57 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Sean H
yes, yes i would.... you couldn't give me a viper, well maybe if it came with the Mr. T starter kit and a jogging suit..... :rolleyes:

Yes ill take the 225 hp japmobile instead of the 500plus hp american car cuz WHY ?
How old are you ..

Affirmed 01-30-2005 09:59 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 
Thats a tight Supra. Ive never been awed by any of the Italian supercars numbers though.

mslr11 01-30-2005 10:32 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 
There is no way a guy in Lambo racing against a Supra would NOT actually try to beat him in a race. I have no doubt that both those cars were racing full and the Lambo got beat. The Lambos and Ferraris are amazing, I would take either in a heartbeat, but some Supras need to be taken seriously. I have a friend that has a '96 Supra he converted from twin turbo to single turbo, has much dinero in the engine, supsension, exhaust, body kit, and has pulled on some Hayabusas on the highway. Certain Supras can easily pull on Lambos and Vipers, depends what they got. He has churned out over 800hp on dyno in Chicago. I would definitely post some pics and numbers if I can get my hands on them.

39NAS-T 01-30-2005 11:28 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Pantera1
Your kidding right .. Those lambos are geared for 200+ and have plenty of HP ..that supra would have been spanked severely if they actualy wound em up ..It looks like they were just playin in traffic :rolleyes:

That Supra is a top end monster. It would have pulled all the way through till it ran out of gear. Those huge turbos breath on the top end. That is why the lambo caught it and passed it when he shifted because the turbo had to spool up but when they do it is pretty wicked.
Hutner

Sean H 01-31-2005 07:30 AM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Pantera1
Yes ill take the 225 hp japmobile instead of the 500plus hp american car cuz WHY ?
How old are you ..


it was 300 HP and with 5k worth of upgrades it would smoke any viper short of a full blown hennesy viper... and why would i want a car with a truck based motor that sounds like the UPS truck that comes to my house? if the viper is your thing, good for you, every dealer has one around here and is trying to give them away..... i wonder why?

and the one viper i did ride in, the dash rattled so bad i thought it was gonna land in my lap and the roof leaked when it started raining that night..... american workmanship at its best....

JUSTONCE 01-31-2005 08:22 AM

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I'd rather have that Toy. than a viper any day. and With some minor susp. mods I know that the supra will hancle just as well as the lambo. I''ve seen 3rd gen rx7's take apart lambos at ride and drives and events when it comes to cornering.

Pantera1 01-31-2005 08:42 AM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Sean H
it was 300 HP and with 5k worth of upgrades it would smoke any viper short of a full blown hennesy viper... and why would i want a car with a truck based motor that sounds like the UPS truck that comes to my house? if the viper is your thing, good for you, every dealer has one around here and is trying to give them away..... i wonder why?

and the one viper i did ride in, the dash rattled so bad i thought it was gonna land in my lap and the roof leaked when it started raining that night..... american workmanship at its best....

Well if were doing 5K in upgrades ..Put the same 5K in a viper ..
That motor was designed for that car ..then they made a steel block version for the truck.
You guys have been watching that gay movie with all the nitrous in it ..what was it called ?
Man that movie sucked oh ya fake and furious :D

BLee 01-31-2005 09:48 AM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 
The Supra was a sweet car. I was shocked when Toyota discontinued it. In these days of riceburner's, I can't believe they haven't reintroduced it.

I would take the Diablo all day over either the Viper or Supra. Screw the sprint speeds. Lambo's have style. :cool:

ST31 01-31-2005 09:54 AM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Pantera1
Well if were doing 5K in upgrades ..Put the same 5K in a viper ..
That motor was designed for that car ..then they made a steel block version for the truck.
You guys have been watching that gay movie with all the nitrous in it ..what was it called ?
Man that movie sucked oh ya fake and furious :D

You can try to slam people who have Supras all you want, but in the end a modified Supra can definitly make you look like an idiot on the street and it does not take Nitrous to do it. Understand that the Supra engine was "Designed" for it as well. The difference is it was "Designed" so well that you can up the HP dramatically for a few thousand dollars (Change out the intake, exhaust, add a down pipe, boost controller, and a front mount intercooler; basically bolt on parts) without having to touch the lower half (Pistons, cams, etc...). I've never seen anyone with a Viper achieve the same results without having to completely tear down the motor.

Viper, ferrari, lambo, porsche are all great cars and I would like to have one of each, but I also understand that just because you buy a name doesn't mean that there will not be someone out there who is faster than you.

:D

Dave1972 01-31-2005 11:49 AM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 
You guys going back and forth are just silly. There was a quote I heard a long time ago and has always been true.

"There will always be someone more _____ than you" (fast, rich, stupid, etc.)

Let's see here....I can go buy a 1500 hp something or another and put it in some piece of crap and it will go faster than all of them in a straight line.

Toyota Supra...awesome design and engineering especially in the engine department. But c'mon....you'll take a Supra over a Lambo...yeah....RIGHT!

robyw1 01-31-2005 12:03 PM

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Don't get me wrong I love the Vipers and am a big Dodge fan. But as far as HP goes the Supra is the king. Their blocks can handle more horsepower than any of the marine engines I have seen on this site. It can also make more than 95% of the engines I have seen on this site. Keep in mind that the little Supra engine is only 182 cu-in and is pushing 1400 HP in some cases. I can assure you that a not only will a Supra kick your butt in a drag race but it will also kill you in a roll on to top end. If you don't think the Supra can hit 200+ MPH then you're crazy. Supra's dominate the street because they have a mill that can handle the power like NO OTHER CAR. If you have never seen the Supra engine I can tell you it is a work of art. No expense was spared to make this engine bullet-proof and even at over 1000 HP it's potential has not been reached. I loved working with the Supra engines because it offered you a blank check of potential. If you think the power of the Lambo, C6 Vette, or viper is impressive you can't imagine how hard an 800+ Supra can put you in the seat and do so from a 70 roll. It is close to being in fighter jet that blast past the Lambo. You think why would someone want to compare an F-16 to a Lambo? Well it is the same question you will ask yourself after one 28 pound boost hit in the Supra. Until you experience it you are clueless.

Roby

ST31 01-31-2005 12:03 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 
I agree with you quote 100%.

I never said that I would take a Supra over a Lambo. I already own a Supra, I can not afford a Lambo yet, but hope to some day.

I love the design of cars like that including the Mclaren, Porsche, and others. It's not always about how fast the car is as much as it is the design and fun experience driving them. For example I would really like to own an older ferrari 308 GTS or Jaguar XKE convertible roadsters someday as well.

Jamie B. 01-31-2005 12:10 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by mslr11
I have a friend that has a '96 Supra he converted from twin turbo to single turbo, has much dinero in the engine, supsension, exhaust, body kit, and has pulled on some Hayabusas on the highway. He has churned out over 800hp on dyno in Chicago. I would definitely post some pics and numbers if I can get my hands on them.

Who is that, Marcus Frost or Mike Carlin you are referring to ? I know its not Marco because he puts down more power than that and has no body kit.

Jamie B. 01-31-2005 12:26 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by robyw1
I can assure you that a not only will a Supra kick your butt in a drag race but it will also kill you in a roll on to top end.

Most T Supra owners dont like to or want to race from a dig / stop. There are exceptions, but most do not.

Pantera1 01-31-2005 12:28 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by robyw1
Don't get me wrong I love the Vipers and am a big Dodge fan. But as far as HP goes the Supra is the king. Their blocks can handle more horsepower than any of the marine engines I have seen on this site. It can also make more than 95% of the engines I have seen on this site. Keep in mind that the little Supra engine is only 182 cu-in and is pushing 1400 HP in some cases. I can assure you that a not only will a Supra kick your butt in a drag race but it will also kill you in a roll on to top end. If you don't think the Supra can hit 200+ MPH then you're crazy. Supra's dominate the street because they have a mill that can handle the power like NO OTHER CAR. If you have never seen the Supra engine I can tell you it is a work of art. No expense was spared to make this engine bullet-proof and even at over 1000 HP it's potential has not been reached. I loved working with the Supra engines because it offered you a blank check of potential. If you think the power of the Lambo, C6 Vette, or viper is impressive you can't imagine how hard an 800+ Supra can put you in the seat and do so from a 70 roll. It is close to being in fighter jet that blast past the Lambo. You think why would someone want to compare an F-16 to a Lambo? Well it is the same question you will ask yourself after one 28 pound boost hit in the Supra. Until you experience it you are clueless.

Roby

Bwahahahahaha :eek:

robyw1 01-31-2005 12:35 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Jamie B.
Most T Supra owners dont like to or want to race from a dig / stop. There are exceptions, but most do not.

True, those were the radial guys :) We used slicks with great success but found ourselves going those twin disc clutches pretty quick.... even from a roll

Roby

Pantera1 01-31-2005 12:37 PM

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Oh what a feelin :chimp:
The Viper GTS-R earned five international GT championships including the 1999 and 2000 American Le Mans Series GTS class titles and the 1997-1999 FIA GT Championships. The Viper finished 1-2 in the GTS class in three consecutive years –1998-2000 – and notched an amazing overall win at the 2000 Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona, the first for an American production-based car.

JUSTONCE 01-31-2005 01:00 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 
Apples and oranges, Lambo's are classic style "dated" but stylish none the less. A status symbol. BUT on a perf. aspect they are uncomfortable load ugly inside and too much money. Put 100k in a supra, and you'll have twice the car period. I've had the pleasure of working on some of the 2JZGTE motors and they are bulletproof. To each their own. You want to get stuck in your seat from a roll @ 60mph. get a supra and build it. You want to break necks get a lambo. Both cars fit both rolls but each has its niche.

Jamie B. 01-31-2005 02:00 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Pantera1
Oh what a feelin :chimp:
The Viper GTS-R earned five international GT championships including the 1999 and 2000 American Le Mans Series GTS class titles and the 1997-1999 FIA GT Championships. The Viper finished 1-2 in the GTS class in three consecutive years –1998-2000 – and notched an amazing overall win at the 2000 Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona, the first for an American production-based car.

We're talking about street cars, not hi budget track cars.

Pantera1 01-31-2005 02:30 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Jamie B.
We're talking about street cars, not hi budget track cars.

Oh I see so you can put an 800 hp supra together for cheap ? And those Lambos are pretty cheap too thats why I bought 3 of em ..
Guess we cant have a constructive discussion about cars as some of you are emotionaly attached :rolleyes:
My brother has a 9 second camaro would that fit here or ..what are the requirements :rolleyes:

PhantomChaos 01-31-2005 02:35 PM

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Boing!!!!!!!! Almost 1000HP!! :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:


http://www.scopeinfo.com/images/2002...y/DSC00400.jpg
http://www.scopeinfo.com/images/2002...y/DSC00397.jpg

Pantera1 01-31-2005 02:47 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos

And it comes with a coat rack ..

Jamie B. 01-31-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Pantera1
Oh I see so you can put an 800 hp supra together for cheap ? And those Lambos are pretty cheap too thats why I bought 3 of em ..
Guess we cant have a constructive discussion about cars as some of you are emotionaly attached :rolleyes:
My brother has a 9 second camaro would that fit here or ..what are the requirements :rolleyes:

Calm down. This topic and video is about street driven, everyday cars and there potential. You posted stuff about track only cars. A street driven Viper, even one thats modified with the best off-the-shelf parts, will not be able to track like a big budget and sponsored Viper that is built to track only.

Ever time any of your Lambo's down the 1320 ?

Pantera1 01-31-2005 03:00 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Jamie B.
Calm down. This topic and video is about street driven, everyday cars and there potential. You posted stuff about track only cars. A street driven Viper, even one thats modified with the best off-the-shelf parts, will not be able to track like a big budget and sponsored Viper that is built to track only.

Ever time any of your Lambo's down the 1320 ?

A stock viper will KILL (KILL) a stock toymota .
I dont drive my lambos they are juss for lookin at .

Jamie B. 01-31-2005 03:00 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Pantera1
And it comes with a coat rack ..

I'm not a fan on those park bench type of spoilers either.

Sean H 01-31-2005 03:08 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Pantera1
A stock viper will KILL (KILL) a stock toymota .
I dont drive my lambos they are juss for lookin at .


i don't think we are talking stock cars either... just a few points to clear up my standing on the section... :D

1. Stock, money not an object, i take a ferrari everyday of the week and twice on sunday.
2. Modified, money is an object, i would take the supra or a skyline everyday of the week.
3. Modified, money is no object, i would go with a ruf porsche or a renntech benz.
4. Track car, money is kinda of a object (it is racing afterall), the M3 takes it.
5. Track car, money is free, i am back to the ferrari, make mine a prodrive.... :D

Sean H 01-31-2005 03:10 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 
i didn't include drag racing because i don't do it, but i have been known to roll on it from time to time on the street.... :cool:

Jamie B. 01-31-2005 03:10 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Pantera1
1) A stock viper will KILL (KILL) a stock toymota .
2) I dont drive my lambos they are juss for lookin at .

1) Yes, thats true. Out of the box and factory stock, the 8.0 Liter V-10 Viper is both quicker and faster than a 3.0 Liter I6 TT Supra. Though the first gen Viper is/was/are only marginally quicker. If both cars get 5,000 to spend on modifications though, the T Supra will be both quicker and faster.

2) Garage art ? WTF. Dust them off and go run them hard, dont be a pansy. :evilb:

Jamie B. 01-31-2005 03:16 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Sean H
i didn't include drag racing because i don't do it, but i have been known to roll on it from time to time on the street.... :cool:

heh . . on the Autobahn, in Germany, right ? Thats where we all do it. :D :cool:

Sean H 01-31-2005 03:17 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Jamie B.
heh . . on the Autobahn, in Germany, right ? Thats where we all do it. :D :cool:


of course, i would never knowing break any speed laws... that would be wrong. :D

i also like the stealth look, lose the spoilers and body kits, give me a black car with tinted windows.. :cool:

Pantera1 01-31-2005 03:22 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 
Right now my stable includes A6 2.7t, chevy 2500 work van and a 92 dodge 4x4 sled/boat hauler, Buell S3 (which id put up against any supra) and a couple sleds and boats.. No Hambo in my garage .. Playing in traffic is stupid , learned my lesson a long time ago..

Jamie B. 01-31-2005 03:39 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Sean H
i also like the stealth look, lose the spoilers and body kits, give me a black car with tinted windows.. :cool:

Sleepers are the best. We have 2 of the best sleepers that I've ever seen in our car club.

One is a clean but average looking Lexus SC 300, pretty much looks just like any other ordinary SC 300, it even SOUNDS stockish and tame . . . its a high 9 second 1320 car and a mid 10 second car on the street.

Second one is an LT1 Camaro Z28. Again, looks just like the other 12 million Z28's, it looks stock and its relatively quiet . . but its packing a twin turbo set-up and is a mid 9 second 1320 car and low 10 car on the street.

Sean H 01-31-2005 03:58 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 
I always thought the sc300 setup would be sweet with a nice single turbo and a swapped in 6 speed.... :D

Pantera1 01-31-2005 04:00 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 
Is the motor in an sc300 the same as a supra ?

Sean H 01-31-2005 04:05 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Pantera1
Is the motor in an sc300 the same as a supra ?


it is the N/A form, 220 or 225 HP i think....


i hope you never race a turned up supra with your S3 for titles..... :D :evilb:

Jamie B. 01-31-2005 04:06 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Sean H
I always thought the sc300 setup would be sweet with a nice single turbo and a swapped in 6 speed.... :D

Thats exactly what he did.

Pantera1 01-31-2005 04:07 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 

Originally Posted by Sean H
it is the N/A form, 220 or 225 HP i think....


i hope you never race a turned up supra with your S3 for titles..... :D :evilb:

It better be turned WAY up ..

Sean H 01-31-2005 04:07 PM

Re: Lambo and Supra video
 
here is your drag supra.... :D

http://www.hksusa.com/info/?id=1871


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