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JCPERF 06-04-2005 08:38 PM

Piston oilers
 
Is anyone using piston oilers in a wet sump engine?

nightmoves 06-04-2005 10:45 PM

Re: Piston oilers
 
Yes I have a pair of 565 's n/a. I will share what I am learning. Questions?

JCPERF 06-05-2005 12:45 AM

Re: Piston oilers
 

Originally Posted by nightmoves
Yes I have a pair of 565 's n/a. I will share what I am learning. Questions?

what size oilers do you have?What oil pump?

JCPERF 06-05-2005 07:46 PM

Re: Piston oilers
 

Originally Posted by sutphen30
not to bust on you,,but the audi's run them on most of their stuff.what are you looking for,,orfice/spray hole size.my 5 cylinder has 5 of them plus pressurized oil feed to the wrist pins.

In a big block Chevy.Not some European crap.

bob 06-05-2005 08:48 PM

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KE and I believe Sterling run them in their 1000+ motors.

CcanDo 06-05-2005 09:25 PM

Re: Piston oilers
 
JC,you and I have had some dialogue.Since then;the following points have been recieved,.026 wet sump-.040 dry sump.The basic reason for .040 on dry sump is concern for available volumne on wet sump.However,discussion includes , .040 dry sump may cool the piston in the range of an innercooler.But, it has also been said that sbject to available volumne ,on either system ,a lifter spray bar is a priority.The lifter bar is thought to require approximately .060 supply.Last, the cup cars are said to run flooded valve covers.

nightmoves 06-05-2005 09:40 PM

Re: Piston oilers
 
JC I am running .026 orifice ,melling hv pump. No oil pressure problems.Yes I heard winston cup guys run.040 orifice, big second ring gaps and of course considerable vacuum.

tomcat 06-06-2005 08:42 AM

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CcanDo: Could you elaborate on "may cool the piston in the range of an intercooler". From a recent article on the new Northstar engine, piston oilers allowed more timing when supercharged, courtesy of rmbuilder.

CcanDo 06-06-2005 08:33 PM

Re: Piston oilers
 
TOMCAT,I`ll try to answer your question with the insight provided by a couple of knowledgeable sources.The 900SC rebuild spec is .005 to .0085 piston to wall clearance.New,the engine is subject to burn a piston if the water to the inner cooler is not turned on.The 900SC didn`t have piston oilers.The 1075 does have piston oilers and is built to .003 clarance.However, the pistons are high silicone.The inner cooler theory lowers denity altitude,reduces chamber temperature and allows more pressure to the chamber.However,the controlled dyno invireoment is the only place one can really measure results.In a perfect world,the engine will always run at the exact same angle as it ran on the dyno,thereby not effecting distribution.It will run at the same ambient,with the same pressue altitude and etc.Further,the fins were installed and never corroded to effect distribution and etc.The dry sump piston sprayers are cooling the bottom of the piston as the innercooler would cool the top of the piston.Therefore,both systems working together should be ideal.But,for me the KISS method doesn`t provide for an innercooler.Finally,moonyham worked hard to create a water log chamber around the outside of thier supercharger ,but could not control the tolerances.

14 apache 02-10-2009 06:59 AM

Piston oilers
 
What size orifice would you guys use on a dry sump with 15" of vacuum. Injected 10to1 598ci 900hp Is Blp a good kit for the oilers. Thanks

IRONMAN 02-10-2009 01:47 PM

Has anyone tried running the oil up the inside of the rod? Seems like you could use less oil that way.

BenPerfected 02-10-2009 03:27 PM

"Pin oilers" are good for getting oil to the wrist pins, but wouldn't be much help in cooling the pistons.
Additional question, does anyone run piston oilers in a NA application?

CcanDo 02-10-2009 06:52 PM

14 apache,You can verify with BLP,I would suggest .040...then coated pistons (ceramic domes and teflon skirts) and DLC pins...Lube Tube rods may be worth considering also...Pulling just that much more heat out...A four gallon oil tank is another cooler/deaireator.

Ben,with your vacuum, .040 should work fine...Verify with BLP....add volume to the pump ...I have the BLP fixtures you can borrow.

14 apache 02-10-2009 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by CcanDo (Post 2797432)
14 apache,You can verify with BLP,I would suggest .040...then coated pistons (ceramic domes and teflon skirts) and DLC pins...Lube Tube rods may be worth considering also...Pulling just that much more heat out...A four gallon oil tank is another cooler/deaireator.

Ben,with your vacuum, .040 should work fine...Verify with BLP....add volume to the pump ...I have the BLP fixtures you can borrow.

Thanks for the help, Eric

14 apache 03-18-2015 10:15 AM

ttt

Unlimited jd 03-18-2015 10:43 AM

Good info, does anyone have a blp jig I could borrow or rent?

Black Baja 03-18-2015 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4280485)
Good info, does anyone have a blp jig I could borrow or rent?

You are welcome to mine after I take it out of the box (had it 2 months) and use it. Probably be two weeks til I get 2 it. If you don't find one between now and then I have you covered.


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