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Ports 08-08-2005 07:17 PM

Bilge seems to run all the time
 
i have a 95 Fountain 24CS. Every time i go out water seems to get into the bilge and the auto bilge turns on and takes care of it. this happens a handful of times during a day on the lake. I dont know if i should be worried about this. i assume it is leaking in somewhere (tabs, drive, etc) but have no idea. its not the plug, b/c i had a new one put in. in retrospect that was probly stupid b/c water is still coming in and the plug was probly fine to begin with.

even after running the bilge, if i take the boat out and remove the plug tons of water comes out. boat is on a lift and the plug is impossibly located on this boat to take out when its on the lift.

any help would be appreciated

Thanks

Dan

offthefront 08-08-2005 07:23 PM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
need to find it ... #1 ..boat might sink .... #2 where ever the leak is ..will lead to rot .....$$$$

Ports 08-08-2005 07:31 PM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
i assume i just go out in the lake and open the hatch and look for water coming in?

anything else i should do?

would a shop do anything different?"

bobonthis 08-08-2005 09:16 PM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
When it is on the lift turn the bilge pump off and fill the bilge back up just a bit full of water and see where it is coming out that is the hill billy way but it sometimes is the easiest way to do it.

mcourson 08-08-2005 09:40 PM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
Had the same problem last year. Replaced the bellows and took care of it.

Ports 08-08-2005 10:41 PM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
stupid question number... ahh hell i lost count...

what is a bellows?

another.... is there wood in the transom that rots? is the construction fiberglass bonded to wood or vice versa... ?

driven boats for a long time w/o knowing much... thankfully i found this site.

Thanks guys

Dan

FOUNTAINATLAST 08-08-2005 11:35 PM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
Bellows are the rubber flexible tubes that surround you drivshaft to the drives. You also have bellows below the shaft which will be your exhaust bellows. Not sure about you transom bonding question but yes there is wood in your transom and stringers that can and will rot out if your leaks are severve enough and not addressed...

Ports 08-09-2005 03:14 AM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
more questions (sorry... and thanks in advance)

-how could i tell if its my bellows?

-if i find the leak, what then? do i just take it to a professional? can i do something? (keep in mind i dont know what i'm doing and i own literally no tools)

-what goes into repairing a transom leak? how much $$ we talking?

Thanks a lot for the help

Dan

Iggy 08-09-2005 04:52 AM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
With the boat on the trailer, raise the drive(s) and look between the out drive and the transom assembly. You'll see a large diameter corrugated rubber tube, that's one of two bellows. Feel around it with your hands looking for any holes or tears. Down a little lower is the shift cable which also has a small rubber bellows where it enters the transom assembly. Check that one too.

BTW stop at your local boating supply and pick up a service manual. It'll help you to see what your looking for.

If you have no experience with this take it to a mechanic.

What can you do to keep it from happening in the future?
Once the boat is parked in the yard, or wherever you keep it, lower the drive(s) until they are close to the ground. Leaving the drive(s) up in the trailering position will stretch the bellows and cause them to fail. I always lower mine once it's parked.

Wally 08-09-2005 08:33 AM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
Are you the original owner? Just wondering if this has been going on from the get go. Have you had any work done recently that started this leak? Like maybe having an impellor changed on the seawater pump? Maybe they didnt tighten the hose clamps all the way down. Does you motor have the water circulation pump still on the block? Check and see if its leaking through the weep hole...maybe the pump is going bad? another trick you can try is to put a dusting of baby powder into the bilge and go out for a quick drive.....pop the hatch and see if you can locate where the water is originating from. When it comes to boats theres so many variables it can take a while to track it down. Good luck

rich allen 08-09-2005 01:19 PM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
I would lower the boat into the water again, after I pumped out all the water from the bilge, and let it sit for an hour, without starting it. Watch for water in the bilge again. If none, then something leaking from motor or hoses while running only. You could get lucky, and find a loose hose clamp. If still getting water, then probably coming from something on that transom, bellows, etc. = time to take it to the shop if you never have done that type of work before. Good Luck.

fund razor 08-09-2005 01:33 PM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
These last few posts or so are really good.

Also... lots of times a leaky bellows will leak OUT when you have the boat out of the water and raise the drive.

(the rubber separates and the water comes out.)

Don't live with the leak, get it diagnosed and repaired if you can't find it on your own.

Ports 08-09-2005 01:53 PM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 
Thanks a lot all for the input and suggestions... i will try a couple of the easier things and if that doesnt pan out, i am printing this thread and bringing it to a mechanic.

Ports 08-09-2005 11:12 PM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 

Originally Posted by Wally
Are you the original owner? Just wondering if this has been going on from the get go. Have you had any work done recently that started this leak? Like maybe having an impellor changed on the seawater pump? Maybe they didnt tighten the hose clamps all the way down. Does you motor have the water circulation pump still on the block? Check and see if its leaking through the weep hole...maybe the pump is going bad? another trick you can try is to put a dusting of baby powder into the bilge and go out for a quick drive.....pop the hatch and see if you can locate where the water is originating from. When it comes to boats theres so many variables it can take a while to track it down. Good luck

I bought it exactly a year ago from a guy just outside of Oklahoma City. He was the second owner i believe. This has been going on since i bought it (embarrassingly enough)

Ports 08-09-2005 11:14 PM

Re: Bilge seems to run all the time
 

Originally Posted by Stingray69
Check the oil cooler water connections.

dont know how


Originally Posted by Stingray69
Had the hose nipple snap the solder connection before.

huh?

really appreciate the ideas and suggestions... i am again proving that i dont know enough about boats. i am trying to learn though


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