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kaama82 08-30-2005 08:31 AM

Amsoil Products
 
Hey members, was wondering what your thoughts were on AMSOIL PRODUCTS????

Knot 4 Me 08-30-2005 09:18 AM

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Good products. Not crazy about their marketing/sales structure. I think Mobil 1 products are just as good and more readily available.

Hydrocruiser 08-30-2005 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me
Good products. Not crazy about their marketing/sales structure. I think Mobil 1 products are just as good and more readily available.

They make good products and the price is not unreasonable for what they offer...

mwdill 08-30-2005 08:13 PM

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i use it in everything , 20w50 ina 496, and you won't find a better 2 stroke oil period.
just my opinion :drink:

Hydrocruiser 08-30-2005 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mwdill
i use it in everything , 20w50 ina 496, and you won't find a better 2 stroke oil period.
just my opinion :drink:

I think their 2 stroke oils have good merit.

Slick02 08-30-2005 08:34 PM

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One simple word OVERPRICED..

Just my humble opinion

Poorsche 08-31-2005 12:34 AM

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Does anyone know the specs on Volvo/Penta Oil FIlters? My marine did an oil change for me and used those instead of the HP Frmas I had provided.

From what I've read the Frams aren't very highly rated anyway--thoguhts/comments?

I'm going to change to M-1's this week as soon as I get up the gumption to lay over the engines for an hour or two.

Hydrocruiser 08-31-2005 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick02
One simple word OVERPRICED..

Just my humble opinion

If it works it works..then you look at price secondly and decide.

Hydrocruiser 08-31-2005 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Poorsche
Does anyone know the specs on Volvo/Penta Oil FIlters? My marine did an oil change for me and used those instead of the HP Frmas I had provided.

From what I've read the Frams aren't very highly rated anyway--thoguhts/comments?

I'm going to change to M-1's this week as soon as I get up the gumption to lay over the engines for an hour or two.

I called...nobody is saying...who knows??

Firewalker 08-31-2005 01:57 PM

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I cannot speak for there 4 stroke oils, but as an 2-stroke engine builder, I can say it is one of the worst oils I have seen.
You can ask almost world class engine guy and you WILL get the same response.
Blue bearings and worn cylinder walls and rings. It is OK..... in a 200 hp motor that turns low ( sub 6000 ) rpm. But if you are building real power ( which requires RPM ) the stuff doesn't cut it.
Look too Redline, Klotz, or my favorite Alisyn.

RT

Hydrocruiser 08-31-2005 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewalker
I cannot speak for there 4 stroke oils, but as an 2-stroke engine builder, I can say it is one of the worst oils I have seen.
You can ask almost world class engine guy and you WILL get the same response.
Blue bearings and worn cylinder walls and rings. It is OK..... in a 200 hp motor that turns low ( sub 6000 ) rpm. But if you are building real power ( which requires RPM ) the stuff doesn't cut it.
Look too Redline, Klotz, or my favorite Alisyn.

RT

It is interesting in that we have heard this from others as well.

Firewalker 08-31-2005 02:19 PM

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Oh, I should state....... I do run Amsoil in my sled, but NEVER in my Hi-per outboards. I run it in my sled because you can buy it everywhere.

RT

Hydrocruiser 08-31-2005 02:25 PM

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I still like the Amsoil 2-cycle oil called Sabre for lawn equiptment. You can go down as low as 1:100 for all applications but I have found 1:64 to be a bit too much...1:100 a bit too little and 1:80 perfect for 2-cycle snowblowers...weedwackers...etc.

The engine seems to start easier and run easy at full RPM. I was using Optimal which is a product made in W. Germany and it is not nearly as good but was better than conventional oils.

Firewalker 08-31-2005 02:27 PM

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The merc prem plus for the 300x and the like is a fine oil, for the Hi-per oil they want you to use there Hi-per oil, it is nothing more than spectro golden.
In both cases you can improve.

RT

Hydrocruiser 08-31-2005 02:31 PM

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FYI
RP 2-cycle is $5.00/qt in 55 gallon drums...

Firewalker 08-31-2005 02:32 PM

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I personally have no experience with Royal Purple, but I know those that do...... run Amsoil first.

RT.... don't rule out Alisyn....... the stuff ROCKS

Hydrocruiser 08-31-2005 02:33 PM

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It would be fun to see Alisyn 20W-50 and 2-cycle oils sent to Blackstone...a virgin test is what we need to make an informed decision with.

deboatmon 08-31-2005 02:39 PM

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I use AMSOIL in my drives and Alysin in my motors. My guess is all the really good oils are similar in performance. It's the change intervals and use that make or break.

Hydrocruiser 08-31-2005 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by deboatmon
I use AMSOIL in my drives and Alysin in my motors. My guess is all the really good oils are similar in performance. It's the change intervals and use that make or break.

I would have to agree to a point...I just wonder why Mobil-1 20W-50 seems to run offshore engines 10 degrees cooler on average with better pressures as well than even a non-premium synthetic...we don't see this with other oils to this extent ya know..

Hydrocruiser 08-31-2005 02:55 PM

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Any Amsoil dealers here..? :D

kaama82 09-01-2005 01:19 PM

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I'm quite happy I started this thread, there seems to be some good info. I do run AMSOIL in my dirt bike and have had zero problems, was thinking about possibly running it in the drives, Seems a few of you like Mobil products also.

Hydrocruiser 09-01-2005 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kaama82
I'm quite happy I started this thread, there seems to be some good info. I do run AMSOIL in my dirt bike and have had zero problems, was thinking about possibly running it in the drives, Seems a few of you like Mobil products also.

PAO Fully Synthetics are great oils..some have more polymers than others and the oils with less polymer containing bases are best...they can run up to $9.00/qt.

mwdill 09-01-2005 08:27 PM

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i buy all my Amsoil at dealer cost .20w50 is about 6.50
it only cost 20 bucks a year to be a dealer.
and i really like the new marine gear lube , was'nt sure at first :D:

kaama82 09-02-2005 07:12 AM

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I also was wondering about the marine gear lube????

biginches 09-02-2005 08:13 AM

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amsoil has had ext drain intervals for years and years.
'bout time mobil got it(still not as long as amsoil though)
as for price royal purple is way higher $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

biginches 09-02-2005 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kaama82
I also was wondering about the marine gear lube????

been using it for 10 years w/o a gearcase failure,and i never beat my stuff :rolleyes: lol

biginches 09-02-2005 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrocruiser
Now that Mobil-1 20W-50 (V-Twin) is $6.99 @ Walmart if you need a premium 20W-50 the price is hard to beat..last year the cost was $8.99/qt which is still about the cost of a similiar Amsoil or Redline product....plus shipping in many cases. At least with Redline you get a heftier ester content for the 9 bucks if you decide to spend that much.

Mobil-1 Extended Goldcap products are $ 5.45 in 5-qt containers at Wallyland as well. That's a good value.

amsoil 20w-50 is $6.90
20-50 motor oil

20w-50 motorcycle oil is $6.90 also

motorcycle oil

fyi

biginches 09-02-2005 08:42 AM

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Having said all that... Amsoil 4-cycle oils are generally good and they get better as the price goes up. They range from $6.00 to nearly $10.00/qt.

All are better than conventional products for certain.
are you talking can. $???
i don't see anything above $9.00

amsoil motor oils

most were $8.75 and down with 25,000 drains.
although ii would'nt go that long
usually 15000 to 20000,
when is the other companys drains
mobil?????????????? :D

Hydrocruiser 09-02-2005 02:04 PM

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.....hold your horses..I edited my previous remarks too...I was off a buck..sorry :D ...and ... I have advocated using $7-$9/qt oil as I do regularly...and you do get an added benefit from the stuff too.

Buddy OO 09-04-2005 05:45 PM

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If you guys really want the best try Swepco. We have been using now for over a year. less friction and wear on motors, hp increases and no engine problems. Nortech is using it exclusively on all their motors, no failures. It really is that good.

mwdill 09-05-2005 11:12 AM

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did the prop spin test yesterday, had one with the the old 80-90 Amsoil and one with the new 75/80-90 Amsoil the diff is the old you might be able get 1 revolution ,with the new you can get almost 3 revs ,i know it's a little thinner but still seems to work as good as the thicker lube. :D:

outdrive man 10-05-2005 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kaama82
I also was wondering about the marine gear lube????

i am an amsoil dealer, i only use torco in my personal drives very expensive but it is horsepower. i would only use amsoil or merc hpf in a pinch


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