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G Man 11-05-2005 05:59 PM

What exactly is "reversion?
 
I have black rubber external flaps on my exhaust. I was thinking of switching to an angle cut tip exhaust tip. Everybody keeps saying watch for "reversion"


Please help.
Thanks

Pure Energy 11-05-2005 06:06 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
The flaps help keep splashing water out of the exhaust pipes. Usually at slow speeds or when in nuetral.

GOODT 11-05-2005 06:42 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
reversion is when water reverses and come back into the motor through the exaust usually when you come off plane. the rubber flaps help prevent this as do the flappers in the pipe,

formula31 11-05-2005 07:17 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
Hmmm, well, reversion is really when the water in your exhaust system ( in a wet exhaust system) is sucked back into the cylinder through the exhaust valve during valve overlap at idle. Valve overlap is when the exhaust valve and intake valve are open at the same time. The flapper at the end of the exhaust pipe doesnt have anything to do with it. It does help stop surges of water from getting in your engine when it is off or if it quits while you are running and that big surge of water comes rushing forward.

GOODT 11-05-2005 08:39 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
formula is correct except that just water from the exhaust wont come back unless there is an abundance of it hence coming back in from the exhaust through hulls

G Man 11-05-2005 09:02 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
Do you then think that switching to the angle tip and thus loosing the external flapper would be OK??????

jpclear 11-05-2005 09:35 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
Sorry, but Formula is RIGHT! Unless you are running a strictly dry stack exhaust, there is always water in the pipe and "outside abundance" has little or nothing to do with REVERSION. Now, to the point; If you are changing to an angled style exhaust tip, I suggest that you purchase ones that include the internal flapper. Your situation will be as good or better than it is now. --- Jer

Liberator21 11-05-2005 09:44 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
You can purchase angle tips with internal flappers, then you have no worries. The flaps will protect you from the potential water surge that you get when coming off plane too quickly. But as formula said, reversion is from excessive cam overlap, and the water exiting your engine getting sucked back into the exhaust at the point where the water mixes with the exhaust gases. Thats why they sell long risers, and dry pipe systems.:)

hillbilly24 11-05-2005 11:07 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 

Originally Posted by jpclear
Sorry, but Formula is RIGHT! Unless you are running a strictly dry stack exhaust, there is always water in the pipe and "outside abundance" has little or nothing to do with REVERSION. Now, to the point; If you are changing to an angled style exhaust tip, I suggest that you purchase ones that include the internal flapper. Your situation will be as good or better than it is now. --- Jer

They are both right actually. Reversion is the act of water entering the clyinder through the exhuast valve during valve overlap. It does not matter how it got in the manifold to begin with it is still called reversion. There is always water in the pipes from the riser or elbow to the tips, there is not water in the risers unless it got there for one od a few reasons one of which is water coming in the piped and down the risers during a quick drop off plane or a wake hitting the transom. You need one form or another of flappers to protect against this but it doesn't matter if they are internal or external.

G Man 11-06-2005 07:05 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
sound like internal flapper is the way to go.

Thanks

drypipetiger 11-06-2005 07:08 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 

Originally Posted by Liberator21
Thats why they sell dry pipe systems.:)

Dry pipes! :drink:


http://www.h20htr.com/videos/neilsboat.wmv

GOODT 11-06-2005 08:09 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
well said hillbilly !!!

formula31 11-06-2005 10:26 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 

Originally Posted by GOODT
well said hillbilly !!!

But wrong, reversion only happens from cam overlap, not from any amount of water in the exhaust. It also can only happen when the engine is running at or near idle and cannot happen from a cam with no overlap. Ingestion happens with the engine off without flaps and water comes in the pipes strong enough to get over the riser and pours in any open exhaust valve.

But , its just semantics. Im surprised you dont know that.

US1 Fountain 11-06-2005 10:46 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
I kinda think f31 is correct here as far as actual terminolgy. Ingestion appears to be what G Man is inquiring about, not reversion.

Nit picking, eh? :p

Pismo10 11-06-2005 10:54 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
Two terms, reversion and ingestion, two different things.

drypipetiger 11-06-2005 11:18 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 

Originally Posted by Pismo10
Two terms, reversion and ingestion, two different things.

Which one is bbrrrrrrrrrrrrp? excuse me. :eek:

Oh wait, thats indegestion :D

jpclear 11-06-2005 03:22 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 

Originally Posted by G Man
sound like internal flapper is the way to go.

Thanks

G-Man, I think you have the correct answer AND lots more than you really need. Stick to what you just said here and all will be well! --- Jer

G Man 11-06-2005 08:07 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
Thanks to all!!

Liberator21 11-06-2005 08:11 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 

Originally Posted by drypipetiger

I knew you'd say that! :)

Formula is right. Reversion is an engine issue, and flaps won't fix that. Ingestion is a different issue, and that what flaps are for. Like jpclear said, you've got the answer you need and then some. Put on the flaps and go boating!!!

bob 11-06-2005 08:50 PM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
I have found that cutting down the water to the pipes, running some overboard, and staying above 900 rpm helps alot. Real deal is adding a blower and reversion seems to go away :D

iamfaster 11-07-2005 05:40 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
Will internal flaps quiet the exhaust at all. My internal flaps are gone..

GOODT 11-07-2005 06:35 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
not when open !!!!!

drypipetiger 11-07-2005 06:37 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 

Originally Posted by GOODT
not when open !!!!!

And when the motors are running, there open...

BROWNIE 11-07-2005 07:35 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
Send me your email address, and I will send my new reversion page from our new website (not up yet).

GOODT 11-07-2005 07:45 AM

Re: What exactly is "reversion?
 
im sorry was thinking about silent choice


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