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Rookie 02-06-2006 11:42 AM

BBC Intake question
 
Is there tall deck intakes and short deck intakes, or are they the same. If they are different can a tall deck fit on a short deck?
Thanks

GPM 02-06-2006 11:54 AM

Re: BBC Intake question
 
They are not the same. It may be possible to have a machine shop cut the tall deck manifold to fit the standard block. It depends on the manifold.

Payton 02-06-2006 12:53 PM

Re: BBC Intake question
 
as the deck on the block gets taller the heads mover farther apart. so a standard intake will no longer fit.

98itrwhite 02-06-2006 12:56 PM

Re: BBC Intake question
 
i am dealing with the same problom rite now. i got a set of merlin heads with a dart intake and now i put the heads on this weekend and now the intake wont clear the heads. my machineist said it would be cheaper and fastes to just buy a new intake. whats the deck height on a stock 454 big block. also what do you guys rec. for a intake. i am spinning no more than 5000rpms. thanks

rdoactive 02-06-2006 12:57 PM

Re: BBC Intake question
 
Tall deck manifolds will not fit on a short deck. Check around and I think you can find spacers to fit a short deck manifold on a tall deck block.
Gary

98itrwhite 02-06-2006 01:11 PM

Re: BBC Intake question
 
yes, you can but only for the rect. port heads

GPM 02-06-2006 01:29 PM

Re: BBC Intake question
 

Originally Posted by 98itrwhite
i am dealing with the same problom rite now. i got a set of merlin heads with a dart intake and now i put the heads on this weekend and now the intake wont clear the heads. my machineist said it would be cheaper and fastes to just buy a new intake. whats the deck height on a stock 454 big block. also what do you guys rec. for a intake. i am spinning no more than 5000rpms. thanks


9.8 standard, 10.2 tall.

98itrwhite 02-06-2006 01:49 PM

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great, thanks

TC 02-06-2006 01:54 PM

Re: BBC Intake question
 
98itrwhite, I spoke with you when you were considering building a 496 stroker. What did you end up building? In response to you question about an intake I was told by more than one person that the Edelbrock Victor Jr 454 is hard to beat on a 500ci or less engine. I used this manifold on my 496. The intake needed a bit of "cleaning up" in the ports but overall I feel it was a good choice for my setup. Just my 2 cents...

98itrwhite 02-06-2006 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TC
98itrwhite, I spoke with you when you were considering building a 496 stroker. What did you end up building? In response to you question about an intake I was told by more than one person that the Edelbrock Victor Jr 454 is hard to beat on a 500ci or less engine. I used this manifold on my 496. The intake needed a bit of "cleaning up" in the ports but overall I feel it was a good choice for my setup. Just my 2 cents...

i decided to just keep it simple and put my heads on the bottom end pretty much like ''330hp on roids'' thing. i have terrible luck and the more stuff i do to an engine the slower it goes for me its just my luck.

TC 02-06-2006 03:03 PM

Re: BBC Intake question
 
On my old engine (454 mag) I used an Edelbrock Air Gap. Since the runners are so large on the GM rectangular port heads I was afraid that If I used a single plain intake it would kill my low end. The Air Gap is a dual plane that is claimed to flow to 6500rpm. I used it with an 850 Holley and a 1 inch spacer. This addition really woke my engine up. Good luck with your build and keep me posted on your progress.

blue thunder 02-07-2006 04:45 PM

Re: BBC Intake question
 

Originally Posted by 98itrwhite
i am dealing with the same problom rite now. i got a set of merlin heads with a dart intake and now i put the heads on this weekend and now the intake wont clear the heads. my machineist said it would be cheaper and fastes to just buy a new intake. whats the deck height on a stock 454 big block. also what do you guys rec. for a intake. i am spinning no more than 5000rpms. thanks

I just bought new dart intakes for 454s with edelbrock heads and discovered the same problem. With my intakes came a cut sheet that said .070" would need to be milled from the runner surfaces in order for these intakes to fit standard bbc heads. I had them cut ($145 for both) and now they are perfect.

BT :cool:

CanDo 02-08-2006 07:44 AM

Re: BBC Intake question
 
Edelbrock Victor jr. is what i used too. Worked well. CanDo

dean51267 02-08-2006 07:56 AM

Re: BBC Intake question
 

Originally Posted by 98itrwhite
i am dealing with the same problom rite now. i got a set of merlin heads with a dart intake and now i put the heads on this weekend and now the intake wont clear the heads. my machineist said it would be cheaper and fastes to just buy a new intake. whats the deck height on a stock 454 big block. also what do you guys rec. for a intake. i am spinning no more than 5000rpms. thanks


I just purchased a dual plane air gap intake for a pair of 454 mags and Dart heads. We have not put it together but did a lot of research and in the 1500 to 5500 RPM range that seemed to be the best fit.

The air gap seems to cool the air/fuel mixture and picks up a few extra ponies...

98itrwhite 02-08-2006 10:34 AM

Re: BBC Intake question
 

Originally Posted by blue thunder
I just bought new dart intakes for 454s with edelbrock heads and discovered the same problem. With my intakes came a cut sheet that said .070" would need to be milled from the runner surfaces in order for these intakes to fit standard bbc heads. I had them cut ($145 for both) and now they are perfect.

BT :cool:

did you have to cut 2 or 4 sides of the manifold?

98itrwhite 02-08-2006 10:37 AM

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sorry, just read it again ''the runner surface''


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