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docmanrich37 04-04-2006 01:20 PM

Nose Cone Install ?
 
I looked up threads on this and havn't found what i'm looking for yet.My ? is has anyone installed hydromotive cones where it blocks your low water pick up and if it did what was done if anything to the pick up.I have a xz lower with dual water pickup.Will this hurt or help.I was told it will increase water pressure but i'm already running water pressure relief vavles on my 525's.It runs at wot between 30-40lbs of pressure now.Been told will gain 4-7 mph.The boat 70-95+ runs like its on rails now so is it even worth installing?

articfriends 04-04-2006 04:55 PM

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Good question,my spare drive has dual pick ups and no nose cone because I haven't been able to find a nosecone intended for dual pick up,Smitty

DRIPPINWETII 04-04-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by articfriends
Good question,my spare drive has dual pick ups and no nose cone because I haven't been able to find a nosecone intended for dual pick up,Smitty

Teague has them. I am haveing them installed on my bravos.

Strip Poker 388 04-04-2006 11:19 PM

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What would it cost to have them put on and repainted tota???

I wonder if its a hole lot would it be better to go ahead and swap out the foots with one that allready has it built in?


rob :drink:

Linster 04-05-2006 04:39 AM

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Rich

I have done both of what you are talking about. I am doing one for Dave now that is a low water pickup. I did 2 for Lotti a few weeks ago. Dave is using the Imco, I used the Hydromotive on mine. I think it is worth the effort above 85. What you will start seeing is small burns on the prop near the hub where the water is pulling away from the prop. It basically is cavatating in the small circumference.

Call me after lunch & I can talk you through it.

LLH

DRIPPINWETII 04-05-2006 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
What would it cost to have them put on and repainted tota???

I wonder if its a hole lot would it be better to go ahead and swap out the foots with one that allready has it built in?


rob :drink:

It was $250.00 for the nose cones ,epoxy and filler. I will know more next week what it cost me to have installed.
My lowers had to come off anyway. :D

docmanrich37 04-05-2006 06:33 AM

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Strip i talked to Mike the guy that sold the 388 to Don and he said he had to put nose cones on he's 388 and what a world of differance it made over 90 mph.

mikes280 04-05-2006 09:33 AM

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when i first did my motor the boat ran 91 with out a nose cone i put on a wpm nose cone and went 96 at a lower rpm so yes they will help you above 85.also it is very importent thet they are stright on the drive if you have never put one on you might get some one to help you that has done they and had them work for them . also they can be stright side to side and up and down good luck

docmanrich37 04-05-2006 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DRIPPINWETII
Teague has them. I am haveing them installed on my bravos.

Who's installing them for you and how much ?

pachangalpina 04-05-2006 01:15 PM

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A few years ago I had a nose cone installed by Bob's Machine. It was for a Bravo and I believe it was $275-295 installed including the parts and repainting the lower. I think they even included a warranty on the paint.

rbtnt 04-05-2006 09:37 PM

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We saw a big difference at about 85 and above on a high X dimension cat with twins. One drive with a nose cone and our spare drive without. RPMs on drive without nose cone climbed a last faster above 85 than the one with. Put the right drive back on and RPMs were the same.

docmanrich37 04-06-2006 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TRICK
Rich,

Did the cones show up? If you have further questions, we can call Tom at Hydromotive.

-AN Wrenches arrived today. They head your way tomorrow. :D

If anyone know's the cones will helpona 388 for sure, I'd like tohear about it. I have a few extrasets on the shelf and might bond a set on my Hustler.

Fred the cones came in on tues. thanks.I know a 388 that put them on and did make a big diff. and especially in handling over 90+.Fred if you like and want to install mine for practice i can send my drives to you. :D

mwdill 04-06-2006 05:46 AM

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Rich, do you have a tig welder?
if you do start grinding your lowers, i know you like the thought of that :D:
I'll help for a gift cert. :drink:
they are not that bad you can either spot weld them then epoxy or just epoxy.

docmanrich37 04-06-2006 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mwdill
Rich, do you have a tig welder?
if you do start grinding your lowers, i know you like the thought of that :D:
I'll help for a gift cert. :drink:
they are not that bad you can either spot weld them then epoxy or just epoxy.

No welding to be done on my drives.Good since it looks like it will be raining on sat. then i'll be at the shop at 7 am well better make that 8 am. :drink:

ROTAX454 04-06-2006 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mikes280
when i first did my motor the boat ran 91 with out a nose cone i put on a wpm nose cone and went 96 at a lower rpm so yes they will help you above 85.also it is very importent thet they are stright on the drive if you have never put one on you might get some one to help you that has done they and had them work for them . also they can be stright side to side and up and down good luck

At the risk of sounding stupid, who is the manufacturer or what is WPM?

ROTAX454 04-06-2006 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TRICK
Rich,

Did the cones show up? If you have further questions, we can call Tom at Hydromotive.

-AN Wrenches arrived today. They head your way tomorrow. :D

If anyone know's the cones will helpona 388 for sure, I'd like tohear about it. I have a few extrasets on the shelf and might bond a set on my Hustler.

Fred, So Hydro has a nose cose for a Bravo 1 drive that has ONLY the low water pickup? I have hull mounted offshore water pickups so that's not the problem. The low water pickups on the drive lowers are used for the top cooler cap. Richard

Rebel_Heart 04-06-2006 10:01 AM

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I think WPM is Warlock Performance Marine.

Too Old 04-06-2006 07:54 PM

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gsmith9898 04-06-2006 08:14 PM

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do you have a picture of one? Will they work if all you have is a low water pick up?

NOMOGOFAST 04-09-2006 02:36 PM

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Rich,

Send the nose cones to rivas. I saw the ones he has done and they look great. If you call him he would probably do them on a weekend, maybe when you pick up your boat.

gsmith9898 04-09-2006 04:12 PM

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Fred, How much are the kits?

Too Old 04-09-2006 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gsmith9898
Fred, How much are the kits?

$99.95

docmanrich37 04-09-2006 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hudsonslingshot
Rich,

Send the nose cones to rivas. I saw the ones he has done and they look great. If you call him he would probably do them on a weekend, maybe when you pick up your boat.

Will and I did them saturday in the shop well Will did them and i helped Lori in the tanning bed i put in the shop.Sure glad i never built any walls around the bed. :D :D

gsmith9898 04-09-2006 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TRICK
$99.95

got a picture fred? Mine xr has only the low water pick up. Does yours work for that?

mwdill 04-09-2006 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by docmanrich37
Will and I did them saturday in the shop well Will did them and i helped Lori in the tanning bed i put in the shop.Sure glad i never built any walls around the bed. :D :D

dude,
you sure had the right bait for her! :D: now your electric bill is going to go up and your gonna have to start stocking "Grey Gooose vodka cause she will want to come over all the time now :drink:

docmanrich37 04-09-2006 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gsmith9898
got a picture fred? Mine xr has only the low water pick up. Does yours work for that?

gs mine has a low water pick up too.all i did was drill a hole in the cone where mine had been covered up from the cone.i'll take pic in the morning and post it.

Will i'm stocking the shop bar with grey goose aslong as Lori wears her new outfit she showed us sat. :D :D

mwdill 04-09-2006 08:39 PM

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yea , she shops as i work,:D:
i like the outfit too :evilb: :evilb:

docmanrich37 04-10-2006 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gsmith9898
got a picture fred? Mine xr has only the low water pick up. Does yours work for that?

Here is what they look like before and after.

gsmith9898 04-10-2006 07:21 AM

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Rich, that looks good. are you going to paint it black or leave it? Was it hard to sand the epoxy?

docmanrich37 04-10-2006 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gsmith9898
Rich, that looks good. are you going to paint it black or leave it? Was it hard to sand the epoxy?

Black and not to bad sanding.

Linster 04-10-2006 07:21 PM

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This is what you need Rich, Don't play with "Mini Me" nose cones

docmanrich37 04-10-2006 08:18 PM

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Finished mine today.Need to put 1 more coat of black on them in the morning and done.

mwdill 04-10-2006 08:44 PM

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i still like the grey :D:

SeaRay Jim 04-10-2006 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by docmanrich37
Here is what they look like before and after.

Is that the Hydromotive nose cone? Wow, it looks small. :eek:

Linster 04-11-2006 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mwdill
i still like the grey :D:

A few people down here have painted them aluminum and they dont look bad. I think Imco does that as well.

docmanrich37 04-11-2006 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaRay Jim
Is that the Hydromotive nose cone? Wow, it looks small. :eek:

Yes it is.Does size really matter ? :D

gsmith9898 04-11-2006 07:04 AM

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Rich, I don't see in your pics where you drilled the holes for the low water pick up.

docmanrich37 04-11-2006 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gsmith9898
Rich, I don't see in your pics where you drilled the holes for the low water pick up.

Just took these.

SeaRay Jim 04-12-2006 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by docmanrich37
Yes it is.Does size really matter ? :D

I always say size doesn't matter as long as it's getting he job done! :D

BTW, I had my boat at the house today and realized that's not really small. Guess I figured it would cover the lower more.

Question, how does it affect the speedo pickup on th leading edge of Bravo drives? It looks like it covers it up. And I like me speedo for pointing out to passengers how fast "we're going". :evilb:

docmanrich37 04-12-2006 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaRay Jim
I always say size doesn't matter as long as it's getting he job done! :D

BTW, I had my boat at the house today and realized that's not really small. Guess I figured it would cover the lower more.

Question, how does it affect the speedo pickup on th leading edge of Bravo drives? It looks like it covers it up. And I like me speedo for pointing out to passengers how fast "we're going". :evilb:

GPS.or drill a hole just for the speedo if you don't have a gps.


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