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ActiveFun 05-28-2006 12:38 PM

Oil Water??
 
Stock HP 500 Carb. Popped the hose off the water pump to begin to change the impeller and oil poured out. I was told its due to a bad oil cooler. Could it be anthing else?? There is no water in the oil, dipstick is clean, no water in valve covers.

GOODT 05-28-2006 01:21 PM

Re: Oil Water??
 
More then likley it is the oil cooler, If oil press is higher the water press then very little if any water will get in the mtr

UNSANE 05-28-2006 05:23 PM

Re: Oil Water??
 
I am having the same issue with my 525 (closed loop cooling). Oil was in the coolant tank when I got the boat, I drained and cleaned it to the best of my ability, but here we go again, it's back... :mad: I was thinking about the oil cooler as well. Engine runs great and there's no water in the oil, but the level on the dipstick does reflect what's going into the coolant tank. Anybody else have this problem? Does this warrant a replacement? How much do these things cost and how much of a pain are they to replace?
Think I'll call Merc this week about this. Boat was like this before I bought it (dealer pictures show an almost black coolant tank and I thought it was just bad lighting at the time), and see if there's any solution that won't cost too much money. I know that these things have very short warranties but you never know...

GOODT 05-28-2006 05:30 PM

Re: Oil Water??
 
unsane, normally the oil cooler is not part of the closed cooling system, Your problem sounds more like a head gasket problem

UNSANE 05-28-2006 06:37 PM

Re: Oil Water??
 
hmmm.......but the engine runs great, is there any other way to visually inspect this issue?

MOP 05-28-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Oil Water??
 
Another thing to check is the water passage in aluminum manifolds, that one sneaks up on guys. I have seen Merc Merc EFI's go bad on 4 years old engine in salt, it is rare in fresh water but does happen.

Phil

jpclear 05-28-2006 10:00 PM

Re: Oil Water??
 

Originally Posted by UNSANE
hmmm.......but the engine runs great, is there any other way to visually inspect this issue?

A leakdown test should either pinpoint the problem or eliminate the head/compression possibility. I'm with goodt on this one---probably a failed oil cooler. --- Jer

ActiveFun 05-28-2006 10:22 PM

Re: Oil Water??
 
So if everything has run perfect to this time and there is no water in the oil, low oil level, oil in the water pump, oil cooler is bad??? Is there any other possibilty??

cig1988 05-29-2006 04:52 AM

Re: Oil Water??
 
Get the oil cooler pressure tested to eliminate doubt. Usually a radiator shop can do it.

UNSANE 05-30-2006 09:13 AM

Re: Oil Water??
 
Going to do a leakdown test this week and see what's up. She did feel a little sluggish this weekend, but it was hot and the boat was heavy.

ActiveFun 05-30-2006 10:40 AM

Re: Oil Water??
 
What should the cost be for a new HP500 oil cooler?? Factory part I guess.

UNSANE 05-30-2006 11:12 AM

Re: Oil Water??
 
I'm going to have my system pressure tested, hopefully tomorrow to see if there's a headgasket issue, I am now having suspicions. How much is a head gasket for this engine? I have a friend who's a very experienced auto mech, is there anything special that would prevent or cause him problems versus a marine mech? And if so, how much $ am I looking at for this?

ActiveFun 06-02-2006 04:03 PM

Re: Oil Water??
 
Problem solved!! Oil cooler was loaded with oil. Should I change the other side as a precaution?? or not necessary??

cig1988 06-03-2006 05:04 AM

Re: Oil Water??
 
Did you pressure test the oil cooler? As far as the other if its not broke dont fix it. If it bothers you, change it.

UNSANE 06-04-2006 11:04 AM

Re: Oil Water??
 
Here's my update: Pressure tested cooling system.....passed. Chemical block test......passed, leakdown test deemed not necessary. I drained the tank and tried to clean it out (not very easy) and refilled. A full blown flushing is in the near future. Changed spark plugs (they were nasty) and fuel/water seperator and that seemed to wake the engine back up. Exhaust notes sounded crisp and sharp while idling. Did oil change as well (it was time) Went to pull prop off outdrive to drain and found a bunch of fishing line wrapped up in there :mad: Going to test this afternoon, but I have a feeling that the thing is going to run a lot better and smoother............damn bassboats :mad: :mad:


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