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awsomethunder 06-05-2006 06:31 AM

if you were to do it over again
 
for the guys that built motors for your boats would you go with big inch 540-572 na motors or smaller 454-496 supercharged engines.can't decide which way to go.had some problems with a supercharged small block i did for my last boat.can get a deal on a procharger about the same price i would pay for a tall deck dart block.help me decide

cigrocket 06-05-2006 06:57 AM

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Depends on the enternals of both. No replacement for displacement. Less problems with a well built NA.

vandeano 06-05-2006 07:42 AM

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I wouldn't of married my wife :evilb:

KAAMA 06-05-2006 07:54 AM

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I guess there are many ways you can look at it. It usually depends on personal preference---so, you're going to get a lot of opinions on this. Supercharged engines certainly have their place, but as for me, I prefer Naturaly Aspirated engines vs a forced induction engine such as a supercharger/blower. There's pro/cons to each application. One, is that you have to be careful with a supercharged engine when applied to a Bravo outdrive. I have a 32' boat with Bravo One outdrives so, I opted to go without the superchargers and add a few more cubes instead. HP still costs money either way you go.

JimV (OSO member) lost about 7mph when he removed his supercharger from his engine and went naturally aspirated, but he's MUCH happier because he has much less downtime, and isn't breaking drives anymore like he used to.

Naturaly Aspirated engines have less moving parts and require less maintenance. I suppose if I owned a larger, heavier boat like a 41' Apache w/#6 drives, then perhaps I would go with supercharged engines if I really wanted the boat to run well.

With a supercharged application the torque usually comes in like Gang Busters. Sure, torque is your friend in a boat----but brutal torque and Bravo Ones don't always get along too well.

Wobble 06-05-2006 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vandeano
I wouldn't of married my wife :evilb:

LMAO :D :evilb:

Wobble 06-05-2006 09:12 AM

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If it's for this boat, i'll go with a 572NA. If I get another boat it will have closed cooling NA mercruiser packages.

Rebel_Heart 06-05-2006 10:19 AM

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I wanted an engine that was built with the best components. I know that I spent a few more $'s with the 540s NA, but hope that I will have longevity on my side. And, like was said before - I have Bravos and it is going to be tough enough keeping them alive with NA.

awsomethunder 06-05-2006 10:43 AM

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what compression ratio's are you using with na motors,87 octane is the only thing they have on my lake.can you get away with 87 with 540 9-1 compression

obnoxus 06-05-2006 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by vandeano
I wouldn't of married my wife :evilb:


That was my first thought !!!!!!!!!! :evilb:

articfriends 06-05-2006 03:28 PM

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I would gp with a big inch motor AND a supercharger :D

awsomethunder 06-05-2006 04:40 PM

Re: if you were to do it over again
 
anyone have any luck with and stock 454 mag carb and procharger.only looking for 525-550 hp for my 25 active thunder

dykstra 06-05-2006 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vandeano
I wouldn't of married my wife :evilb:








priceless!!!!!!!!

Ratickle 06-05-2006 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by articfriends
I would gp with a big inch motor AND a supercharger :D

The only correct answer!!! :eureka:

ratman 06-05-2006 08:44 PM

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I would gp with a big inch motor AND a supercharger
bingo...we have a winner :D

sleek1 06-05-2006 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by awsomethunder
what compression ratio's are you using with na motors,87 octane is the only thing they have on my lake.can you get away with 87 with 540 9-1 compression


Not an expert, but I was told at 10:1 compression you need to use 91 octane.

AIR TIME 06-05-2006 09:31 PM

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#1 would have gotten the 89 sutphen 26 big block in 1990 instead of my baja 24 ol 88 #2 would have stayed single #3would have gone to college in stead of going in the union carpet installers all the guys I learned from are dead #8 of the guys from my dads old shop are gone most in there fifty's I'm 48 5 bad disks and one bad knee :eek: :D O big inches my motor is a 510, but I'd like to have a 700plus inch motor built :D :D :D

Rebel_Heart 06-05-2006 09:49 PM

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My compression ratio is 10.25, so will be using 93.

articfriends 06-05-2006 11:12 PM

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I went with a 540 AND a blower on my current engine,makes 950 plus ft lbs tq on 92 octane,would have went bigger but tall deck motor would have created extra heartache when running exhaust thru transom,Smitty


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