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barron 07-09-2006 08:15 AM

#3 Speedmasters
 
Can you still get parts for these, props ect.? Why were they replaced with 3 a's. Looking at a boat w/these drives and wonder if this would a bad choice? Boats a 38 Fountain w/ 500hp's what do you think? Thanks!

nocigarette 07-09-2006 09:43 AM

Re: #3 Speedmasters
 
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I HAVE A #3 ON MY MAGNUM, AWSOME DRIVE I HAVE BEEN STUFFING OVER 700 HOARSE IN IT FOR 60 HARD HOURS...SEEMS TO BE HOLDING UP FINE...THE 3A IS A WAY BETTER DRIVE, IF YOU PLAN ON PUTTING BLOWER MOTORS WITH HUGE HOARSEPOWER IN YOUR BOAT.....BUT A PLAIN #3 is a great drine and yes you can still get parts but i dont think you will need them

Hydrolift 07-09-2006 08:37 PM

Re: #3 Speedmasters
 
I believe the #3a has the larger prop shaft, among other things , 26 Splines #3A, 19 splines #3

A little hard to get parts for the #3, that's my experience, especially the gears, NLA. http://www.mercruiserparts.com/selec...doc_nbr=+13668

http://go-fast.com/3A_drive.htm

barron 07-10-2006 07:01 AM

Re: #3 Speedmasters
 
Are # 3's and 3a's interchangeable ?Or are #3a's gimbals diff.

Hydrolift 07-10-2006 11:44 AM

Re: #3 Speedmasters
 
SSM #3, #3A, #4, and #5 is interchangeable.

barron 07-10-2006 04:29 PM

Re: #3 Speedmasters
 
Thanks to all !

Warlord 12-12-2008 03:14 PM

I have a question.

If the pic above is of a #3, and has the vertical leading edge on the lower with the bullet pertruding from it, what differentiates this model, from the #3 with the crescent leading edge (similar to #4 lower, but with the longer (deeper) lower case)

vertical LE:

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/ssm.1.jpg

CLE LE: serial of this is: 38030982C which I think represents an '81/'82 small shaft #3

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/ssm.2.jpg

Any ideas??

HotPursuit 12-12-2008 10:47 PM

The bottom picture is a later model,the #4s have larger vertical shafts and a shorter height.They also came with deeper skegs. 3s work well on V bottoms and 4s work well on cats.They also cam with large and small prop shafts.
Great drives but parts are getting real hard to come by.

Warlord 12-13-2008 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 2758506)
The bottom picture is a later model,the #4s have larger vertical shafts and a shorter height.They also came with deeper skegs. 3s work well on V bottoms and 4s work well on cats.They also cam with large and small prop shafts.
Great drives but parts are getting real hard to come by.


OK thanks.

So, the second picture is a later style SSM #3, but not a 3A? when did the 3A come on the scene?

The one pictured was new in 1982, did 4 races in a UIM class II boat, then sat in a barn for 20 odd years, so the exterior has suffered a bit.
You can see from this close up, the UJ is still shiney, this was the first time it was taken off the boat since 1982.

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/UJ.jpg


The boat it came from:

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/Warlord1982.jpg

found stored in barn:

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/3317.jpg

Warlord 12-13-2008 07:22 AM

After some input from the original designer/builder, deck removed, stretched from 30' 7" to 31' 10" and a pad keel added, mould taken and new deck produced.

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/war1.JPG

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/war2.jpg

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/war3.jpg

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/war4.jpg

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/p32.jpg

Warlord 12-13-2008 07:23 AM

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/P32.2.jpg

Finished boat now racing in the European 'Marathon' class (long distance endurance racing) now running twin staggered small (3.2 litre) turbo diesels / Bravo XR-ITS

Long distance racing is making a big comeback over here in Europe, ..round in little circles no longer interests the racers. In June this year, we ran the 1500 mile
Round Britain Race again, for the first time in 24 years and got 47 entries!. And the famed Cowes-Torquay-Cowes event was also run again, and is set to continue in the coming years. Long live real Offshore.

http://www.boatmad.com/images/drives/desktop10s.jpg

HotPursuit 12-16-2008 11:22 PM

Dam sweet looking and lots of work.
The 3A came out about the same time the 5s came out.
Im thinking 8-10 yrs now.
The 3As have the same size gears,bearings,shafts, just a longer X dimension. :drink:

Warlord 12-17-2008 03:15 AM

OK, thanks for the info, much appreciated.

What we need now, is some Yanks to come over to Europe and challenge our best in the Marathon series.

The old style long range, open water racing really is VERY rewarding. You certainly feel you've earned a drink at the end of a 250 mile rough race.

Of course, if you don't think ya boats or crews are up to it....:evilb:


cheers

Jon Fuller


Originally Posted by HotPursuit (Post 2760658)
Dam sweet looking and lots of work.
The 3A came out about the same time the 5s came out.
Im thinking 8-10 yrs now.
The 3As have the same size gears,bearings,shafts, just a longer X dimension. :drink:


HotPursuit 12-17-2008 07:54 PM

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What we need now, is some Yanks to come over to Europe and challenge our best in the Marathon series.

The old style long range, open water racing really is VERY rewarding. You certainly feel you've earned a drink at the end of a 250 mile rough race.




cheers

Jon Fuller[/QUOTE]

Is there any other Offshore Racing!! :ernaehrung004:


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