TRS vs Bravo
 

I need input, opinion are apprecieated.....

I know the Bravo 1 is a good drive but limited to how much hp can be put to them, and the TRS is stronger but harder to get parts for, and assuming you are NOT wave hopping, you ahve 525 or so HP, in a 10,000# boat, which drive would you prefer?

Thanks!!!

Re: TRS vs Bravo
 

I have TRS with 475 -500 hp for 3 years now and no problems so far. Pushing a 28 Pantera. :D

Re: TRS vs Bravo
 

Negotiate the price down due to the "obsolete" TRS drives, then put the money toward a pair of bolt-on Konrads ;)

Re: TRS vs Bravo
 

I was talking to Galen at Speedmaster's, who has been working on drives since Moby Dick was a minnow. He said all these aftermarket drives, are just different cases with bravo parts. He said some of the newer ones use a transmission, instead of shifting in the drive. He said, "What do you have then?..............A TRS!". He's a pretty big fan of Trs, and all the talk about parts being scarce, I've yet to hear anyone say they had to throw away their Trs because they couldn't find parts.

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I wouldn't let a TRS drivve bother me as long as it has the rught transmission in front of it.

Re: TRS vs Bravo
 

I wouldn't let a TRS drive bother me as long as it has the right transmission in front of it.

Re: TRS vs Bravo
 

The BW is the prefered transmission, but Deb's 22 had a Merc trannie. I had it gone through, and extra clutch plate installed, and the drive shaft spline clearanced. I was told it should be good to about 650 hp now. One drawback of the Trs is that it sits deeper in the water, and has more drag. I would have had to move the engine forward 4 to 7 inches to put a BW in it. I love the smooth shifting, no clunks. It's like the Twin Disc 502 transmissions shift in my 302 with the surface drives. With the trannies on both, you have to get used to it taking a split second to build up pressure in the tranny to shift. Otherwise, you think it's not in reverse (or forward), and you move the throttle more, and you are moving faster than you expected. Just takes a couple times to get used to it. Any drive that uses a transmission is going to be tougher than one that shifts in the outdrive.

Re: TRS vs Bravo
 

The TRS weakness is a lower gear set/bearing support issue, with the left hand drives being stronger because of better gear/bearing support (probably why all single trs applications are left hand drives), while the Bravo's weakness is in the upper gearset, again because of a gear/ bearing support issue - in this case caused by shifting design needs.

Taking the shifting out of a Bravo gives you a stronger drive than the TRS because the Bravo lowers are apparently stronger than the TRS lowers.

I have had no problem breaking TRS's lowers with @600hp and 4k lbs, and thats without any "slip and grab" catching air screw-ups.

Seems all I've heard and seen puts the fuzzy limit on both drives at 550hp and above as being the beginning of trouble, so I'd rather have the sleeker, lighter, more parts available Bravo.

Re: TRS vs Bravo
 

agreed

Re: TRS vs Bravo
 

TRS to Konrads are the way to go! Bravos don't last amd Konrads don't break.

Re: TRS vs Bravo
 

Lofty ,is there spacer plates available for the Konrad ? Why i ask is because I am in the process of raising my drive line up 4" because of the buried TRS ,it measured 8" prop center to running surface ,final measurment will be 4" .later on when i build some real power and need stronger drives will i be able to achieve the same prop centerline to running surface with the Konrads.I hear that the Konrads are just under 2" shorter than the TRS.The boat is a 30 scarab with blown 454's at present.

Re: TRS vs Bravo
 

Lofty, any info on that pantera swap as far as what kind of difference it made(other than the fact that it will hold some serious power)?? Was it a TRS boat? I haven't heard any results on single engine swap yet............