Re: Possible flooding of cylinders with fuel - calling on the OSO brain trust again..
 

Unfortunately, new only means "Not used yet" It never guarantees "Good".

Re: Possible flooding of cylinders with fuel - calling on the OSO brain trust again...
 

I was installing a brand new GM truck Tbi crate motor. Another mechanic walked by and started laughing so I was miffed and shot at him 'WTF are you rolling your eyes for and snickering about ?' He came over and said " How's this thing gonna run on 4 cylinders, there's no spark plug holes on this cylinder head." :eek: :eek: :eek:

Damn !!!! And I was dropping this baby in !!! I don't do plugs until last, just about anyway.

Yes, brand new GM baby !!!! :eek:

Re: Possible flooding of cylinders with fuel - calling on the OSO brain trust again...
 

I can feel your frustration I went through 3 GM 454 HO crate motors 2 years ago. Everyone blamed each other, no one would step up to the plate finally the mechanic put them through his insurance. The seller of the motors didn't want to hear anything he blamed the mechanic with out even looking at the motors. The warranties are useless because no one will honor them unless you take them to court. THE MOTOR SUPPLIER WAS FROM MA. 1800RUNSNEW

Re: Possible flooding of cylinders with fuel - calling on the OSO brain trust again...
 

well, unfortunately that is what is going to happen, any attemp to discuss this leads to his saying "buy another or pay me to rebuild it, and if you do not like it, sue me".... same seller.........

and there is NO WAY his excuse makes an ounce of sense...

Re: Possible flooding of cylinders with fuel - calling on the OSO brain trust again...
 

well, unfortunately that is what is going to happen, any attemp to discuss this leads to his saying "buy another or pay me to rebuild it, and if you do not like it, sue me".... same seller.........

and there is NO WAY his excuse makes an ounce of sense...

Re: Possible flooding of cylinders with fuel - calling on the OSO brain trust again...
 

Hey these guys go to the boston and RI boat shows it you are 100% its there fault I'll take the weeks off and tell everyone about there shzt :mad: :mad: :mad: my buddy picked up a new small block 350 325hp from them because of me :( its not in the boat yet :( keep us posted to what happens I'll put signs on my jeep and boat about them there 30 to 40 mins from my house :mad:

Re: Possible flooding of cylinders with fuel - calling on the OSO brain trust again...
 

Man, I sincerely apprecieate it.... here is another way you could REALLY help....

Make an appointment with them to SEE the motor, I never got to see the bearings because I could not pull rod and main caps off. Tell them I ask you to look at what he is looking at, also look at the heads, and the spark plugs, and make an HONEST determination. Take pics, and post them here, if the guys on here say it was an over fueled motor I will eat it in a heartbeat, but if not, I am willing to go a different route.

Here is where I am stuck, EVERYTHING I have says over tight bearings, which means a warranty claim, if I am wrong, I need to suck it up and move on. Without a neutral third party involved it gets real hard to say.

Ted (inspec tech) is working on getting a professional warranty claims adjustor to do this also, a second opinion would be excellent.

Let me know if it is something you can do, I will make it worth your time.

Re: Possible flooding of cylinders with fuel - calling on the OSO brain trust again...
 

oil analysis is done, it was pulled by QM Watersports, they were not the installer. When the motor went down we immediately took it to QM Watersports who pulled the motors. This was done to prevent someone from saying the oil sample was not accurate. QM Watersports is independent of this mess. They had the report sent to them, and faxed the report to me once received. It came this morning.

Given what has been posted here, and conversations with JK, owner of Marine Engines, Inc, I can say this is a company who does not warranty their product as promised. At no time will he allow any conversations regarding oil analysis, burn patterns in cylinders, no bluing from heat on rods, why only 2 rod bearings failed and the others did not, or other quantifiable metrics which allow for post failure analysis. His determination of rod bearing failure is that the motor smelled like gas, so it must be gas related, despite four independent witnesses who were present when the motor was tore down who said the motor did not smell of gasoline.

Bottomline, the guy will not even allow a discussion of warranting a motor, has retracted his warranty, now states it must be rebuilt at a cost of $45/hr, and no warranty for associated cost. When we discussed cam duration because I was running lightening headers they stated GM will not give cam specs, I ask if the motor reverberated because the cam was to big, but I did not know because cam specs were not given, and I have a reverberation problem, what happens, he stated "we send you a new motor and money for installation". (Lightening says with a cam with greater than 240 duration reverberation is possible, which started the discussion).

He became vulgar, abusive, and threatening saying "courts do not take affidavits so if you want to sue me you will have to bring your experts up here, try and pay that instead of paying me to fix it", called me a lying SOB, and a lot of other things.

I have tried HARD to be objective and rational, VERY hard, but the efforts have reaped no reward...........

Re: Possible flooding of cylinders with fuel - calling on the OSO brain trust again...
 

Dean - PM