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LS1 MOLESTER 10-12-2006 10:01 AM

Can 5psi be reliable on a non-magnum 454?
 
I'm thinking of the procharger intercooled 5 psi kit.

I've read it's good & reliable, and i've read it's a nightmare in the waiting.

Opinions please.

LAKESIDE RESTORATIONS 10-13-2006 07:19 AM

Re: Can 5psi be reliable on a non-magnum 454?
 
It can be fine on a non mag if the boost is done in moderation & its installed properly.. If you go too high on the boost or set it up wrong then yes problem city! :bunny: :bunny: I can get you a system if you want one.. :) Jamie / Lakeside

Elite Marine 10-13-2006 08:38 AM

Re: Can 5psi be reliable on a non-magnum 454?
 
The original owner of one of my Panteras ran an M-1 with intercooler for 3 years on a 7.4 with no problems.

Jamie is right, if you set it up properly they will last. Just make sure you keep the boost down.

RBeyer 10-14-2006 01:14 AM

Re: Can 5psi be reliable on a non-magnum 454?
 
If you stay out of the boost (ha ha) you will be ok for a season or two.
Change oil often at the first sign of consumption even if that means 10 to 15 hours.
At the end of the day the weakest link will break, non magnum bottom end cast crank, etc. Bravo drives don't like HP. I have had many a mechanic say no problem as they see the dollar signs($$$$$). Cha Ching
My expieriance is plan on an engine rebuild with modifications and a drive upgrade.
My two cents. Good luck.
I have a modified 454 mag with M3SC@7lbs boost. Drives were a problem went B-Max so far so good did an engine rebuild and modifications after 1st season getting fuel in the oil.

CMG 10-14-2006 09:28 AM

Re: Can 5psi be reliable on a non-magnum 454?
 
How many hours on the non-mag? if a ton don't do it!

BeakBoater35 10-14-2006 10:04 AM

Re: Can 5psi be reliable on a non-magnum 454?
 
For comparison look at the Merc HP525SC. It's a 454 and runs about 5 pounds boost. It is known as a good trouble free package. Vast majority ran Bravo 1 drives. Now look at the engine's internals...forged crank, forged low compression pistons, good rods, rollor rockers, Inconel exhuast valves...

There's a message here!


Originally Posted by LS1 MOLESTER
I'm thinking of the procharger intercooled 5 psi kit.

I've read it's good & reliable, and i've read it's a nightmare in the waiting.

Opinions please.


baronbob 10-14-2006 10:59 AM

Re: Can 5psi be reliable on a non-magnum 454?
 
If you are injected plan on a re-program and new injectors. I up graded a 7.4 to mag internals, 5psi m-1 and then some. The drive just failed (9000# boat) and I have detonated twice. Facing another re build after one season, my problem as I re programed three times and did not have big enough injectors, MY BAD. If you are carbuerated it is less complex and easier to tune. My drive shower saved the top end however the bottom went out, gear floor in a 98 drive is weak.

ECeptor 10-14-2006 11:54 AM

Re: Can 5psi be reliable on a non-magnum 454?
 

Originally Posted by JoelHene
For comparison look at the Merc HP525SC. It's a 454 and runs about 5 pounds boost. It is known as a good trouble free package. Vast majority ran Bravo 1 drives. Now look at the engine's internals...forged crank, forged low compression pistons, good rods, rollor rockers, Inconel exhuast valves...

There's a message here!

HP525SC is a 454? Thought it was a 502...

ghittner 10-14-2006 12:08 PM

Re: Can 5psi be reliable on a non-magnum 454?
 
At 600-650 HP you will run into problems with internals primarily the crank. A non forged crank will begin to oblong itself at these numbeers, mine did. No other problems just the crank couldn't handle the torque, all other components were fine to that point. Two seasons it ran until that probably 100 hours or so.....

Griff 10-14-2006 02:08 PM

Re: Can 5psi be reliable on a non-magnum 454?
 

Originally Posted by ECeptor
HP525SC is a 454? Thought it was a 502...


It is a 454, 7.5 CR, with a 177 supercharger@ 5.5#'s boost.


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