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Lunatic Fringe 11-22-2006 04:34 PM

Mechanical gauge lines
 
What are most of you guys running for your mechanical gauges? Std braided lines or socketless lines from Aeroquip, Earl's or XRP? Push-lok lines from Parker? The only concern I have on the Parker 801 or 831 hose is that it is only rated to 212 degrees F on oil and 185F on water. The 836 hose is rated to 300 degrees like most of the big name braided lines. With three gauges per motor in a twin application for a grand total of about 180 feet, a buck per foot difference in price adds up quick. Any input would be appreciated.

Jim

rexone 11-22-2006 05:34 PM

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Jim you might consider this stuff. It's more than adequate and somewhat cheaper than braided. We use a lot of it on gauges because of the long runs.

SkiDoc 11-25-2006 07:49 AM

Re: Mechanical gauge lines
 
Mines got the push lock rubber for oil press, water press, boost, fuel pressure from DCB.

ApacheCarl 11-25-2006 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lunatic Fringe
What are most of you guys running for your mechanical gauges? Std braided lines or socketless lines from Aeroquip, Earl's or XRP? Push-lok lines from Parker? The only concern I have on the Parker 801 or 831 hose is that it is only rated to 212 degrees F on oil and 185F on water. The 836 hose is rated to 300 degrees like most of the big name braided lines. With three gauges per motor in a twin application for a grand total of about 180 feet, a buck per foot difference in price adds up quick. Any input would be appreciated.

Jim

Jim,

when putting it all together, don't forget the gauze pads and 3 in 1 oil. :)

Carl

greencard 11-25-2006 09:51 AM

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Autometer makes premade long braided lines for guages, they work great for my fuel and oil press.

nocigarette 11-25-2006 04:31 PM

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i know race car engines and boat engines are the same but.......................i have seen a aero quipp hose drag a hemi down the track after our rail blew in half..........i use aero quipp on every line in the boat, no rubber....I also have been told by a doctor that i am mildly retarted................

Strip Poker 388 11-25-2006 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KYElimEagle
Mines got the push lock rubber for oil press, water press, boost, fuel pressure from DCB.

You have a mechanical fuel pressure gauge with a hose runing from the motor to the gauge ? that means there is fuel in that line at the back of the gage.

Does anybody else run mechanical fuel pressure gauges????????

My electric one are junk :(

Vinny P 11-25-2006 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
You have a mechanical fuel pressure gauge with a hose runing from the motor to the gauge ? that means there is fuel in that line at the back of the gage.

Does anybody else run mechanical fuel pressure gauges????????

My electric one are junk :(

I am sure you are asking if anyone has run a mechanical fuel guage the dash. I didnt have the nerve to do it for fear of leaks. However, I did add a mechanical guage on the engine which I use to set fuel pressure. You can just about see it in on the right side of the front of the intake. I always look at it before leaving the dock. Dont trust the b.s. electric gauge on the dash too much either.

KNOT-RIGHT 11-25-2006 05:59 PM

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The only electric I run is for fuel.
I couldnt bear the thought of fuel leaking also.

Aeroquip pushlock blue -4 for all the rest.

Elite Marine 11-25-2006 06:57 PM

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I run a mechanical fuel gauge with high pressure fuel line up to the gauge. Never had any issues. It is also inside a pvc sleeve. But for piece of mind, you should use one of these isolators:

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...115+4294845469

They look like they are perfect for our application.

Outdrive1 11-25-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rexone
Jim you might consider this stuff. It's more than adequate and somewhat cheaper than braided. We use a lot of it on gauges because of the long runs.


This is good stuff, much nicer than the cheap plastic lines that come in the kits for mech gauges.

Strip Poker 388 11-26-2006 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by checkmate454mag
I am sure you are asking if anyone has run a mechanical fuel guage the dash. I didnt have the nerve to do it for fear of leaks. However, I did add a mechanical guage on the engine which I use to set fuel pressure. You can just about see it in on the right side of the front of the intake. I always look at it before leaving the dock. Dont trust the b.s. electric gauge on the dash too much either.


Is that a #3 line?

Strip Poker 388 11-26-2006 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pantera28-650HP
I run a mechanical fuel gauge with high pressure fuel line up to the gauge. Never had any issues. It is also inside a pvc sleeve. But for piece of mind, you should use one of these isolators:

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...115+4294845469

They look like they are perfect for our application.


I have 2 of the Autometer style like that. they have antifreeze in them . They are like the electric they not real accurate :(

Strip Poker 388 11-26-2006 06:01 AM

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I have 2 of these in the race car,They are eletric & have this sending unit and a black plastic box that hooks up to the gauge. there a little better.I guess at least they will tell me if there's something going wrong.

Vinny P 11-26-2006 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
Is that a #3 line?

Rob,
Yes, it is a -3 Earls pre-made line. These lines are sold as brake lines, but I have been using them for years as fuel pressure lines. BTW, is the picture you titled "Rats Nest" a picture of an F-15 or the wiring in your race car. :eek:

Thats alot of wires. My compliments on a nice neat , clean job. :drink:

Vinny

SkiDoc 11-26-2006 06:41 AM

Re: Mechanical gauge lines
 
Yes, Mechanical to the dash. I don't know what kind of rubber hose it is but it looks like 3/8" fuel line with some kind of mesh reinforcement. It is very thick. I will keep a close eye on them. I don't know if I would have done it this way, but it is very accurate.

Lunatic Fringe 11-26-2006 11:06 PM

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Thanks for the response guys. I'll have to price out the -3 Earl's stuff. I actually went with the new Autometer full sweep electric on the fuel pressure side. We'll see how accurate they read. Right now the Aeroquip socketless -4 is right around $3.00/ft and the Parker -4 Push-lok 836 line is at $1.74/ft. Both are rated at 300 degrees and 250psi. I'm leaning toward the Parker stuff. Heck if it is good enough for an Apache, it should be good enough for an old Cougar. Right Carl?? I'm with you on the scotch brite pad and the 3 and 1 oil. I assembled my prelube oil lines this weekend.

Jim

KAAMA 11-26-2006 11:33 PM

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I am also running a -4 Areoquip mechanical gauge fuel line up to my helm/dash. Along with that I am also running mechanical oil pressure and water pressure gauges as well.

Strip Poker 388 11-27-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by checkmate454mag
Rob,
Yes, it is a -3 Earls pre-made line. These lines are sold as brake lines, but I have been using them for years as fuel pressure lines. BTW, is the picture you titled "Rats Nest" a picture of an F-15 or the wiring in your race car. :eek:

Thats alot of wires. My compliments on a nice neat , clean job. :drink:

Vinny

Its my Camaro race car.It took a little time wiring it :drink:


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