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pol98xc6 12-31-2006 09:16 AM

EMI or lightning headers?
 
Sorry guys I posted it wrong the first time! I have a 23 outlaw with a 496 mag and im looking at buying an aftermarket exhaust. I was wondering which would be better to get the emi or lightning exhaust? Im only looking at spending around $2000.
Happy new boating year!
Luke

Crazyhorse 12-31-2006 09:23 AM

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A friend of mine has Lightning headers and they are really nice, both from a performance standpoint as well as being good-looking, and well constructed. Stainless inners and outers. Another friend has EMI Thunders with stainless risers and they are also high-quality. It's probably going to come down to which you can get the best deal on.

oldandtired 12-31-2006 11:27 AM

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I don't think that you are going to find the stainless lightning headers for 2k. If you are using them in salt water, the stainless is a must. Of all the cast setups in the 2k range, I really like the Danas. Including the stainless risers, they are about 1800. I was about to buy a set myself until I stumbled into a good deal on a set of CMI's.

Rene

Lofty 12-31-2006 11:31 AM

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Lightnings are great headers for the $ but like oldandtired said you wont find them for $2k.

We list them at $3100 but if you give me a call I can set you up with a better deal than that.
http://www.oneilloffshore.com/produc...id=882&exp=all

pol98xc6 12-31-2006 11:32 AM

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I am thinking about getting the lightning black headers. They go for about $1900

pol98xc6 12-31-2006 11:34 AM

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www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=6300

Lofty 12-31-2006 11:49 AM

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pol98xc6, those are NOT stainless headers and will only last 3-4 years IF you drain them after every use and NEVER run in salt or brackish water.

Lofty 12-31-2006 11:56 AM

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If your looking for cost effective exhaust we have RMI's for $849.

http://www.oneilloffshore.com/produc...id=881&exp=all

muffman 12-31-2006 12:02 PM

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I run the lightning headers on my 496 and I bought them and pressure tested them before my install and have had them for 2 years with no problems. I have 5" tips on my boat so I cut the reducers off the end and use a 5" hose to connect to the tips. Btw all Lightning headers are stainless steel on the inside .

mtgbiker 12-31-2006 12:05 PM

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Talk to Fred @ Trick Marine for CMI's. See 496 link
866-921-4553
http://www.custommarine.com/headerapps/index.php

Lofty 12-31-2006 12:08 PM

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True but hte standard headers will not hold up to salt.

Lofty 12-31-2006 12:09 PM

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I don't think Fred deals with CMI anylonger but he may have some old stock. The CMI's are great but now we're really moving out of this guys budget.

pol98xc6 12-31-2006 12:21 PM

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Guys I run in fresh water if that helps

Bryan Rose 12-31-2006 12:42 PM

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I ran set of Lightnings on my 502 BBC Jet boat....Of course I always ran in fresh water but I was really happy with them....Great product for the money, if you run in FRESH water only.......................Great fit and finish and the powder coating held up very well. If I was in the market for a new set to run in fresh water only they would be my choice!

Jan over there is a great guy to deal with!

Bryan

pol98xc6 12-31-2006 02:44 PM

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Jan over at?

Bryan Rose 12-31-2006 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pol98xc6 (Post 1978250)
Jan over at?

Lightning


he owns it..................or is in charge over there

Lofty 01-01-2007 08:54 PM

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Jan is a straight up guy. And don't mind the name, he's a good ol' boy.

articfriends 01-01-2007 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 1978131)
pol98xc6, those are NOT stainless headers and will only last 3-4 years IF you drain them after every use and NEVER run in salt or brackish water.

I really liked my lightnings,had them on my boat for 5 seasons in fresh water and they still looked like new when I took them off and switched to stainless marine 3's because of reversion concerns when I went to bigger heads,Smitty

MattBMiller 01-02-2007 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 1979561)
I really liked my lightnings,had them on my boat for 5 seasons in fresh water and they still looked like new when I took them off and switched to stainless marine 3's because of reversion concerns when I went to bigger heads,Smitty


Still have them?

pol98xc6 01-02-2007 08:06 AM

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How do I get in touch with jan? Web or phone if anyone has it.

INDY27 01-02-2007 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 1978152)
I don't think Fred deals with CMI anylonger but he may have some old stock. The CMI's are great but now we're really moving out of this guys budget.

When did Fred stop dealing with CMI?

Bryan Rose 01-02-2007 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pol98xc6 (Post 1979693)
How do I get in touch with jan? Web or phone if anyone has it.

www.boatheaders.com

Lofty 01-02-2007 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pol98xc6 (Post 1979693)
How do I get in touch with jan? Web or phone if anyone has it.

Ph (951) 678-5631

Call me after you talk to him, we can cut you a better deal than he gives retail.

Finn

pol98xc6 01-02-2007 08:21 PM

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ok thanks

Whiteknuckle 01-03-2007 04:03 PM

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I sold my EMI's and installed Lightnings. The EMI is much better than stock, however I think anything the EMI's can do the Lightnings can do better because it is a true header. The fit and finish are excellent. If you get the black powder coated Lightnings and compare them in price to the stainless riser EMI you should be close in overall cost. However with the Lightnings you may have to rearrange a few accessories, although the power steering pump is a pain with the EMI's.
Good Luck

pol98xc6 01-03-2007 09:48 PM

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Sounds like Im going to go with the lightnings!

articfriends 01-04-2007 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MattBMiller (Post 1979678)
Still have them?

Sold them last year to my bud for his 95 525sc checkmate,Smitty

CPPerformance 01-04-2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pol98xc6 (Post 1977986)
Sorry guys I posted it wrong the first time! I have a 23 outlaw with a 496 mag and im looking at buying an aftermarket exhaust. I was wondering which would be better to get the emi or lightning exhaust? Im only looking at spending around $2000.
Happy new boating year!
Luke


Basically the manifold and header comparison is kind of a apples and oranges comparison. Bottom line is tubular headers make more power. So if power gains are your primary consern the Lightning headers win hands down. Lightning builds an extremely high quality hand crafted header. As for bang for the buck, well Lightning wins hands down again. I would like to let you know that we have the 496 Lightning headers #310-40308 in stock and ready for immediate delivery for $1999.99. If you would like to call me in regards to specific OSO member benefits I would be glad to assist you. Thanks, Brad.

bobl 01-05-2007 09:27 AM

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I've run Lightnings on quite a few boats. They work great. I've got a set going on 4 years in fresh water. I just pulled the engine and I see no signs of rust. Of course you really can't inspect the inside.

I installed a set on a 496. It was a lot of work to get the water drains plumbed correctly, not exactly bolt on.

"Rumor" has it that Raylar is doing some comprehensive dyno testing of the Dana exhaust on various 496 combos. Hopefully he'll post results. Sounds promising.

littledcsrodshop 01-05-2007 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pol98xc6 (Post 1979693)
How do I get in touch with jan? Web or phone if anyone has it.


boatheaders.com is Lightnings home web site. I bought a set of the regular magnums ( freshwater ) to run on my old Pantera & I couldn't have been more pleased with them. The quality & fit was great ( especially for the $$ )
The flanges where also nice & thick like they should be.

littledcsrodshop 01-05-2007 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by littledcsrodshop (Post 1983405)
boatheaders.com is Lightnings home web site. I bought a set of the regular magnums ( freshwater ) to run on my old Pantera & I couldn't have been more pleased with them. The quality & fit was great ( especially for the $$ )
The flanges where also nice & thick like they should be.

I just seen somone already posted the website. ( It helps if I look @ the last post & not just the bottom of the 1st page. ):rolleyes:

Cord 01-05-2007 12:46 PM

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I had lightings on my boat and never had any problems with the headers.

Lofty 01-05-2007 01:38 PM

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Here's a set of stainless in black.

dana marine products 01-07-2007 08:12 PM

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The 496 kit testing is no rumor. Dana Marine and Raylar were on the dyno for 3 days last week. Three engines were tested. A 496 mag (375 hp), A 496 with the Raylar 525 kit installed, and a 496 HO (425 HP). The results were good. We will post detailed information 1st part of this week.

pol98xc6 01-07-2007 09:19 PM

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cool I cant wait

bobl 01-08-2007 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dana marine products (Post 1985742)
The 496 kit testing is no rumor. Dana Marine and Raylar were on the dyno for 3 days last week. Three engines were tested. A 496 mag (375 hp), A 496 with the Raylar 525 kit installed, and a 496 HO (425 HP). The results were good. We will post detailed information 1st part of this week.

Thanks, we're waiting on results:D Ray didn't want to disclose the results yet so that's why I said it was a "rumor" LOL.


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