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offthefront 01-30-2007 10:00 AM

MSD Ignition ....
 
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MSD has a new "marine" control box 6m-2L (6560) .... I have been told that they aren't available and MSD doesn't know when they will be ... Any info out there ? m

TC 01-30-2007 10:08 AM

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Dont know anything about it but I would purchase the marine ignition from Crane if I were buying again. Cranes box has advance curves programmed in and all you do is chose the one that fits your build. I have been running an MSD 6AL box for many years with no problems. After I built my new engine I had to start searching for Thunderboldt ignition modules to fit my needs. Just my 2 cents. Good luck!

cstraub 01-30-2007 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TC (Post 2009877)
Dont know anything about it but I would purchase the marine ignition from Crane if I were buying again. Cranes box has advance curves programmed in and all you do is chose the one that fits your build. I have been running an MSD 6AL box for many years with no problems. After I built my new engine I had to start searching for Thunderboldt ignition modules to fit my needs. Just my 2 cents. Good luck!

I would recommend going with the Crane unit also.

fastlane40 01-30-2007 02:01 PM

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Me too.

offthefront 01-30-2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TC (Post 2009877)
Dont know anything about it but I would purchase the marine ignition from Crane if I were buying again. Cranes box has advance curves programmed in and all you do is chose the one that fits your build. I have been running an MSD 6AL box for many years with no problems. After I built my new engine I had to start searching for Thunderboldt ignition modules to fit my needs. Just my 2 cents. Good luck!

I talked to crane and they said the curves are specific for the merc motors they list .. They Also told me they dont have a Distributor that will work in a Mercruiser ..:rolleyes: .. guess I should have told em it was for a truck ...:D


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brian41 01-30-2007 02:48 PM

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You use your stock Mercury distributor already set up for marine environment and we have used these systems since they came out without 1 failure. I will never buy another MSD product but I do have a shelf full of old MSD systems as a reminder of why the do not not hold up in boats. MSD distributor look in the dictionary under rust it will be first in line. MY 2 CENTS

TC 01-30-2007 03:12 PM

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It seems like I have seen a post or possibly a web site at one time that graphed the advance curves that were programmed into the Crane marine ignition to work with Merc HP engines. As I recall one of the curves should work for nearly any marine build.

Have you considered the Crane electronic distributor?? You simply "dial in" your advance curve. Billet aluminum housing and fully urethane sealed from moisture. $319.99 from Jegs

offthefront 01-30-2007 04:20 PM

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I had planned on using my TB IV setup but there is no rev limit ...that worries me ...Also the distributor is 18 years old .... My HP is about 2x and a busted drive could be diaster without a rev Limit ..

offthefront 01-30-2007 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TC (Post 2010218)
It seems like I have seen a post or possibly a web site at one time that graphed the advance curves that were programmed into the Crane marine ignition to work with Merc HP engines. As I recall one of the curves should work for nearly any marine build.

Have you considered the Crane electronic distributor?? You simply "dial in" your advance curve. Billet aluminum housing and fully urethane sealed from moisture. $319.99 from Jegs

I'm open ...thats why i asked ..

I talked to a company the repairs the MSD's .. They suggested the 6ALN (nascar box) Said it can repaired where some are sealed in a epoxy and cant be ..They also can get Nascar boxes for about 150.00 ...The teams run them for about 10 hours and unload them ...not sure that would be such a great deal ... Although they are tested .....

the duke 01-30-2007 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TC (Post 2010218)
Have you considered the Crane electronic distributor?? You simply "dial in" your advance curve. Billet aluminum housing and fully urethane sealed from moisture. $319.99 from Jegs

If you like tempting fate with a non marine approved Distributor. At this time, Crane does not have a marine approved one. Kiss your insurance goodbye.

the duke 01-30-2007 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by offthefront (Post 2010297)
I had planned on using my TB IV setup but there is no rev limit ...that worries me ...Also the distributor is 18 years old .... My HP is about 2x and a busted drive could be diaster without a rev Limit ..

The MSD box has a REV limited built into it that can be set with different chips where ever you want it.

offthefront 01-30-2007 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by the duke (Post 2010441)
If you like tempting fate with a non marine approved Distributor. At this time, Crane does not have a marine approved one. Kiss your insurance goodbye.


Insurance ?

otis311 01-30-2007 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the duke (Post 2010444)
The MSD box has a REV limited built into it that can be set with different chips where ever you want it.


Duke, How the hell are you ?? Have you been wearing your new T-shirt around much ?? I havent seen you post much lately ,just wanted to say hey

the duke 01-30-2007 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by otis311 (Post 2010480)
Duke, How the hell are you ?? Have you been wearing your new T-shirt around much ?? I havent seen you post much lately ,just wanted to say hey


Its snowmobile season. or, just stay in tech, and you can see me a lot.

the duke 01-30-2007 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by offthefront (Post 2010471)
Insurance ?

I assume that means you don't have it?

Then I change it to say kiss your boat goodby if God forbid you get a fuel leak and a spark from the non marine Dist.

Griff 01-30-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by offthefront (Post 2010297)
I had planned on using my TB IV setup but there is no rev limit ...that worries me ...Also the distributor is 18 years old .... My HP is about 2x and a busted drive could be diaster without a rev Limit ..


I highly doubt you will find any 18 year old MSD ditributors out there. I would buy a new TB IV distributor($250) for less than an MSD and run a Crane Box with built in curves and built in adjustable rev limiter.

James 01-31-2007 05:42 AM

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I have used the crane HI-6M for two years now - the curves are for marine applications and there is enough to choose from - Box also has programable rve settings built in - It is unususal but you will have to take Merc distributor out and re-index the shutter wheel - it is not hard to do but it has to be canged - takes about 15 minutes to redrill and reset the unit - Crane SUCKS when it comes to support on other features such as knock sensors - Just got a back up unit last night - Summit
$ 303.00


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