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daveintexas 03-01-2007 10:09 PM

Thinnest gasket
 
In my 509cid project, if i want to raise CR a little what is the thinnest head gasket and what brand should i use. part numbers are very very helpful. thanks, dave

the duke 03-01-2007 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by daveintexas (Post 2043943)
In my 509cid project, if i want to raise CR a little what is the thinnest head gasket and what brand should i use. part numbers are very very helpful. thanks, dave

Mill the head.

daveintexas 03-01-2007 10:30 PM

its a brand new dart big m block. dont really want to mill the head unless that is the best thing to do.

Griff 03-01-2007 10:44 PM

Milling the heads .030 will give you about a .25 increase in comp ratio--assuming 118cc chambers.

JCPERF 03-01-2007 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by daveintexas (Post 2043943)
In my 509cid project, if i want to raise CR a little what is the thinnest head gasket and what brand should i use. part numbers are very very helpful. thanks, dave

You can get Cometic head gaskets in .030 thickness

Rookie 03-02-2007 12:15 PM

How thick is a normal head gasket? I have GM 188's that have been milled to 114.5cc, I am now putting Merlins on that I believe are 123cc. I was told that I would not want to mill these heads. What would be a good way to go about raising my compression. 454's gen 4

sorry for hijack of the thread but I was just going to ask this.

PatriYacht 03-02-2007 02:08 PM

Rookie, you're going to lose almost a point of compression with that swap. If your block has never been zero decked, you can get about 2 cc per cyl. back by doing that. If you can mill the heads .030, you can get about 5 cc back from that. Or you can use a different set of pistons with a larger dome. I think you're going to notice the loss of power through the whole rpm range including idle otherwise.

Rookie 03-02-2007 02:23 PM

with the inefficiency at lower rpm 188's I have on my 425's, and the flat tappet cams. I was told that with the higher flow #'s of these new heads and better ramps and profles of the roller cam it would be a mute point. I am only looking to get it to 118cc. would this be achievable with just gasket? I will check about how much I might be able to mill these.

PatriYacht 03-02-2007 02:45 PM

Rookie, you need to have .040 min distance between piston and head. If you deck the block or go to a thinner head gasket, that distance gets smaller. You will have to measure it to find out what the thinnest gasket is you can use.

PatriYacht 03-02-2007 04:06 PM

Are your new heads oval port or rectangular? The flow numbers for the rect. port Merlins are pretty close to the 188's. The cam change will likely do some good.

BajaRunner 03-02-2007 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by JCPERF (Post 2043982)
You can get Cometic head gaskets in .030 thickness

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bcarpman 03-02-2007 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by daveintexas (Post 2043967)
its a brand new dart big m block. dont really want to mill the head unless that is the best thing to do.

Depending on the quench you've got now, you really are better off milling the block. You'll never get close enough with the head gasket, and the quench (distance between the piston and head at TDC) really does matter more than most people think.

Most BBC's are setup 20-25 down in the hole. with a 39 head gasket that's 60-65 thou of quench. Way too much! You want it under 40 for good combustion and detonation resistance

It's really not that expensive in the sceme of things, and it's also a good way to make sure your deck heights are equal front to back and side to side as well.

Rookie 03-05-2007 10:12 PM

PatriYacht , these are rectangle port that have been wedged to about 316cc and fully ported with some good flow #'s. they were done locally by a head guys who seems to put out some decent #'s, I think you know him. ;)

PatriYacht 03-06-2007 07:44 AM

Ok then it's worth taking a little time and getting it right.:D :cool:

cobrapower 03-08-2007 08:26 AM

Forget a thinner head gasket, it will account for next to nothing in raising your compression. What compression are you currently running, is this motor naturally aspirtated or supercharged?


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