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LostinBoston 03-31-2007 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by t-islands (Post 2076008)
what about the Sage #8? There is a Suberboat being built with this drive hooked to a turbine.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=116625


Do you know how much the sage drive costs vs arneson 7 or merc 6?

2112 03-31-2007 09:58 PM

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What ever happened with the Weissmann's package?

monstaaa 03-31-2007 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by B BOATER (Post 2074239)
Hey bud I hear you loud and clear! I dont want to go to that extreme plus you will scrub power and speed from the number 6 drive. We are waiting for one last try. We have gone through all brands none hold up what they claim. There maybe a new choice soon coming from Pfaff racing dont know when they will be introduced but they claim handling 1000hp motors. They are being tested on a 1500hp motor right now with great results. No promises here but if its true we are lined up with one as soon as possible.

with all due there is really no scrub or power loss due to the 6 and tranny. as a matter of fact the same boat , same weight same power was faster with the 6's over bravos.(dry sump)

point is there really is no substitution for it in a case like this. you can pick up a used 6 and gimbal for what your gonna spend on a maybe upgrade.

id look around
good luck

Payton 04-01-2007 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by monstaaa (Post 2077510)
with all due there is really no scrub or power loss due to the 6 and tranny. as a matter of fact the same boat , same weight same power was faster with the 6's over bravos.(dry sump)

point is there really is no substitution for it in a case like this. you can pick up a used 6 and gimbal for what your gonna spend on a maybe upgrade.

id look around
good luck

But, he then will have to move the engine forward to make room for the trany. Does anyone make a trans in extension box setup for a #6? I know the NXT is like that but it can only be purchased in a package. Can the Konrad Ace transome assembly and box be made to fit a #6? Seems like that would solve the problem.

t-islands 04-01-2007 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by LostinBoston (Post 2077128)
Do you know how much the sage drive costs vs arneson 7 or merc 6?

Here is the details from the link I provided.

Sage # 8 drive $ 20,000
Sage, zero effort shiftable tranny $ 5,000

2112 04-01-2007 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by monstaaa (Post 2077510)
with all due there is really no scrub or power loss due to the 6 and tranny. as a matter of fact the same boat , same weight same power was faster with the 6's over bravos.(dry sump)

point is there really is no substitution for it in a case like this. you can pick up a used 6 and gimbal for what your gonna spend on a maybe upgrade.

id look around
good luck

What reinforcement to the transom is necessary moving from a bravo to a #6?

monstaaa 04-01-2007 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by 2112 (Post 2077862)
What reinforcement to the transom is necessary moving from a bravo to a #6?

none if the transom is in good shape.

and if you go 6 youll need to slide the engine forward bout 11-14 inches,

you can also use a waet sump which is less desireable, but more affordable.

B BOATER 04-01-2007 03:05 PM

monstaaa you are telling it takes less power to turn a transmission and larger gears? I understand dry sump is more efficient than they wet #6 but I cant believe its easier than a bravo one.

Payton 04-01-2007 03:08 PM

I believe it takes more power to turn the trans and #6, but the #6 goes thru the water so much better that you gain with the 6

Coolerman 04-01-2007 05:55 PM

The 6 is faster because it is dry-sumped and it is also has better hydrodynamics to it.


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