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Originally Posted by Reed Jensen
(Post 2127895)
I've cleaned out multi-pass oil coolers before with good results. It's a messy time consuming job... but it can be done. First off... flush repeatedly with clean solvent. This will dissolve any oil or sludge. Don't be in a hurry. Let the cooler soak for a couple of days if need be. Continue to flush with solvent until the solvent comes out clear. Drain completely. This may entail inverting the cooler many times. Next... get a good degreaser that is water based. You can go to a grocery store and get a laundry pretreater. I know this sounds crazy.... but I've found this stuff will degrease the greasiest of engines and engine compartments better than any auto parts store degreaser such as Castrol's. The name of this stuff is "Soilove". It comes in small one pint bottles and cuts grease like crazy. Partially fill the cooler with a 50 50 mix of degreaser and water. Do NOT totally fill the cooler. Next you want to swish the cooler back and forth for a few minutes. Let the cooler sit for a while and lay it in different positions so that the degreaser gets to all areas of the cooler. (You will probably have to find plugs for the cooler at this point). Agitate for several hours if you can.... Next....... and this is the most important part. You need a flushing device like radiator shops use. This looks like a gun where water goes in one end and air goes into the other end. Connect the flushing tool (They are available from Snap-on, I have one) to super hot water. Open and remove the plugs... Flush the cooler with hot water and blasts of air. Repeat about a hundred times (wear gloves so that you don't burn your hands) in different positions and flushing in different directions. Invert and drain the cooler, blow out with dry air and leave them in the sun for a few hours to make sure all the water is dried out. I did this to two huge multi-pass coolers and didn't have any problems with contamination after. I also flushed and washed out the lines the same way. It was a lot of work,,,, but a hell of a lot cheaper than buying new.
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Originally Posted by Reed Jensen
(Post 2127895)
It was a lot of work,,,, but a hell of a lot cheaper than buying new.
So you gotta ask yourself- Do you feel lucky??? What’s a couple hundred bucks compared to the engine, and the lost time. A $200 rod broke in my engine, and 20K fixed it. Thank god it wasn't a $200 dirty oil cooler, I'd kill myself.:eek: |
$200? Hell, the lines are more than $200.
I have 140 hours on a rebuilt motor, using the old lines and cooler. I'd have been mighty pissed if i had to replace that stuff when I rebuilt the motor... it was 2 weeks old when the motor went. I had a shop do the work, given the quality of the rest of the work, i doubt they even flushed it out. |
Originally Posted by sleeper_dave
(Post 2128633)
$200? Hell, the lines are more than $200.
I have 140 hours on a rebuilt motor, using the old lines and cooler. I'd have been mighty pissed if i had to replace that stuff when I rebuilt the motor... it was 2 weeks old when the motor went. I had a shop do the work, given the quality of the rest of the work, i doubt they even flushed it out. |
Originally Posted by zt260
(Post 2128229)
Until the engine goes BOOM...then $$$$$
So you gotta ask yourself- Do you feel lucky??? What’s a couple hundred bucks compared to the engine, and the lost time. A $200 rod broke in my engine, and 20K fixed it. Thank god it wasn't a $200 dirty oil cooler, I'd kill myself.:eek: |
Originally Posted by zt260
(Post 2129008)
I assumed he wasn't getting ripped off.:(
On the lines? -8 braided stainless lines with earls fittings cost a damn fortune, and a lot of guys are running -10 or bigger. I have $300 plus in lines, $100 for an oil thermostat, and $160 or so in an oil cooler. You don't replace the block just because there's junk in the oil passages. You just have it cleaned. Why would the oil cooler and lines be any different? When you replace a trans in your car, do you get a new radiator too? You're supposed to, yano... |
No question, replace the cooler. Trying to do things inexpensively will just come back to bite you in the azz.
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some have mixed emotions on this but all oil goes trhough filter before back in engine it may be a little harder to filter cooler oil but at least its filterd in the case of cooller failer ect . just my thoughts rob
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I would just buy a new one but i can tell you for my transmission business I bought a g-tec trans cooler flusher. It uses heated transmission fluid under pulsated air pressure and is filtered thru twin filters and we flush the coolers and lines for a hour or 2 in each direction until they are like new. It cost me 2400$,if it was bigger I would say you could send me your cooler and I'd flush it but it only goes up to 1/2" connectors and I'd hate to be the guy who cost you another motor. It has worked very well though on the dodge diesel water to trans oil coolers which are just like a engine oil cooler (they are mounted on the pass side of motor and cooler is a tube bundle). If your interested I'd do it for a nominal fee plus s/h,Smitty
http://www.g-tec.com/supreme.html |
Here's the real understanding of this matter....
Parts of bearings and other debris get caught in crevisces of the oil cooler and it is totally impossible to back flush and remove all of it even with the best of all intentions. Knowing that the coolers are bronze or copper even if aluminum, they are soft metals and hold sharp steel debris like a magnet. The jagged edges of the debris take a firm hold and can cause a real problem later when they let go. I too bought a used oil cooler in stupidity years ago, and am having second thoughts... Is it really worth it, I highly doubt it ! BBB |
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