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Pat McPherson 09-03-2007 09:05 PM

502MagMPI Surging at Idle when Hot
 
Hey fellows,
I have a 1997 Merc 502MagMPI.
The engine seems to have developed a surging problem at idle when she's hot. The problem has come and gone 3-4 times this summer and today it was to the point were she would stall below 1000rpm.
The strange thing is that I can launch the boat, turn the key, she fires, and idles at 600rpm when she's cold. This engine has always started quickly when cold.
Today after she cooled down some at the dock, I turned the key and she fired and idled fine again. It did cough out some black smoke but then seem to be fine. When it was surging I think I smelled gas like it was running real rich.
So do I have a bad sensor within the EFI system?
Or do I have Fuel problem?
I'm thinking I should start by changing the temp sender to the computer.

txriverrat2001 09-03-2007 10:23 PM

I'm betting the IAC is at fault - you need to scan it and get a IAC count and the IAC Follower count.

Pat McPherson 09-04-2007 07:07 AM

A bad IAC would make sense.
I don't have a scan tool.
I do have a code tool, but that is only going to show faults.
Would the ICA show a fault?
I have extra parts from my 7.4MPI. I wonder if it would be the same IAC?

Dave_N 09-04-2007 09:41 AM

An IAC failure would not set a fault, but I don't think it's the IAC. It sounds to me like a rich condition is causing the problem, and the IAC is trying to keep it from stalling.

I would check for codes, check the ECT sensor, check fuel pressure, and other possible causes of overfueling.

Dave

Pat McPherson 09-04-2007 10:23 AM

OK Dave, I can do that.
So if she thinks she's cold, she'll run rich?
Thanks.

Ted G 09-04-2007 10:29 AM

I had this problem and it was an IAC, just my .02

Pat McPherson 09-04-2007 10:58 AM

Thanks for the input guys. Please keep it coming...:cool:
Even if I replace both the IAC and ECT, we're only talking $110-$120.
Is there any setup for a new IAC or do I just screw in a new one?

RichardCranium572 09-04-2007 12:43 PM

Don't forget IAT :)

Pat McPherson 09-04-2007 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by RichardCranium572 (Post 2258430)
Don't forget IAT :)

How much does that one cost?:p

RichardCranium572 09-04-2007 01:46 PM

Here's part numbers to save you some time.
GM and AC-Delco respectively.
IAT 25036751 213-190
ECT 15326386 213-928

From memory, I think they're around $40 each.


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