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Smitty 10-05-2007 08:18 PM

How much more horsepower will I get
 
when I go from 509's to 540's ?? Everything else will be the same except bigger lb/hr injectors and a new tune. It will have the same heads, cam and boost level. They made 750 hp before at 8 psi at 5500 rpm. Max of 850 ft/lbs torque.

Elite Marine 10-05-2007 08:42 PM

My guess +70 HP. Who's building the engines and tning them. Ateco has a dyno and can tune the EFI.

fastlane40 10-06-2007 03:07 AM

Your boost level may drop a bit with the extra cubes.I bet you see 100HP.My 540's @ 8psi 876HP.What cam and heads???

Smitty 10-06-2007 08:39 AM

Crane 731 roller cam and lifters. Edelbrock aluminum heads with alot of port work done. I/E ratio 80 %

I'd be happy with 75hp more per motor. I know I will have to get a smaller pulley to get boost back to 8 lbs. I have also thought about going for a max of 6 lbs so as to not be as stressful on the motor and drives. If I can get 825 per motor at 6 psi I would be very happy. Also thinking about a custom grind cam from RMBuilder/Bob

articfriends 10-06-2007 09:45 AM

If your motors were 502 ci and you go to 540 ci your gaining 7.5% more displacement,7.5% x 750hp=56 hp everything else being equal. Go with a custom ground cam matched to the flow #'s of your heads/intake and the gains will be more signifigant. Going from stock blocks to dart big m's you will have less cyl distortion/better ring seal also. You could easily make 900 plus hp with the right heads and cam,in 05 when I went from merlin heads to afr 315 cnc's and added 60 lb injectors I made 945 hp on the dyno with smallest pulleys,930 with everyday pulleys on pump gas (thru cmi's on crocketts dyno not turning any accesories using the more generous 60 degree sae correction factor that everyone uses except the oem's) and it still idled like a hp 500,Smitty

CNC 10-06-2007 09:51 AM

Why not go 572??? thats what I'm running ....about same price ,
I have 1078 hp @6000rpm 12#boost dart block, dart ci heads,
crane hyd cam......nothing fancy at 20psi over 1400hp!!

Pismo10 10-06-2007 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by CNC (Post 2297355)
Why not go 572??? thats what I'm running ....about same price ,
I have 1078 hp @6000rpm 12#boost dart block, dart ci heads,
crane hyd cam......nothing fancy at 20psi over 1400hp!!

9.8 block maybe.

fastlane40 10-06-2007 04:57 PM

Solid roller or hydraulic?

Smitty 10-06-2007 06:07 PM

Fastlane 40 See post #4

CNC-- 540 cubes is all that is in the budget !!! The next boat is going to have 572 blown engines that make at least 1200 each. This boat is not worth the effort.

mrhorsepower1 10-07-2007 08:27 AM

75-85 Hp

tomas_wallin 10-16-2007 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 2297299)
Also thinking about a custom grind cam from RMBuilder/Bob

That's what I'd do! :D

kennyo 10-16-2007 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 2297715)
Fastlane 40 See post #4

CNC-- 540 cubes is all that is in the budget !!! The next boat is going to have 572 blown engines that make at least 1200 each. This boat is not worth the effort.

Don't be hatin' on your Baja!

cobra marty 10-16-2007 09:09 AM

Your 509's made 750hp at 8pounds boost which is about 500hp N/A which is a little light at only 1.0hp/cid but your torque at 850 is much higher indicating too little cam and a restrictive long runner intake. The more you can make N/A the more you will make boosted. I would think that your cam is a little small and your intake is a bit restrictive. All being equal 509 to 540 will give you 540N/A hp and then 8 pounds boost + 50%(270hp) to 810hp or +60HP.
I would open up the intake manifold and shorten the runners and go with a RM spec cam. If your new cam and ported intake gives you 1.15HP/cid then 540CID becomes x 1.15 = 620 HP and 8 pounds (+50% 8/16) adds 310hp to 930HP!! Even 600HP N/A (1.11HP/CID) + 6 pounds boost (6/16 + 37.5%) adds 225HP to 825HP which is where you want to be.

Smitty 10-16-2007 07:13 PM

Thanks Marty. I am running a Crane 731 roller cam. Definitely looking for a custom grind cam. I would like to keep max boost at 6 psi.


Kennyo-- Don't worry brother. I decided to keep the old girl for a while longer, thats why the switch to 540's. The next ride will be a Top Gun with big power and 6's.


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