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schizm 11-04-2007 12:36 PM

Water in oil!!!
 
I bought a boat at auction and it died on me 1st time out. It just lost power and quit and then the battery didn't have enough power to crank the engine over. I figured a bad alternator so I pulled it and had it serviced, it needed a new voltage regulator. The boat is a 1988 powered with a 454 Magnum and Bravo drive.
I ran it on muffs yesterday for about 10-15 min. to warm the oil. I drained it through the dipstick with a vacuum pump and the oil was a solid light grey color. It gets better, I pulled 11.5 litres out!:hitfan: I'm guessing cracked block from the amount of water. Any common problem areas to find the crack?

Pwrbt33 11-04-2007 12:43 PM

If it is cracked the lifter valley is a common place!

US1 Fountain 11-04-2007 05:45 PM

Leaking intake gaskets will also fill the oil pan with water. Been there, done that.


Maybe hydro locked ?????? do to the fact it started running bad, then died, then not enough juice to turn over. Exhaust manifold bad or risor gasket shot??

Prostreeter 11-04-2007 06:37 PM

Doubtful it's the block.Most likely would run very poorly on the muffs.Head gasket is the first thing i'd be checking.

Pwrbt33 11-05-2007 05:23 AM

Also if you dont find anything pull the t-stat housing and check the intake under there. The intakes have also rotted out and let water in the engines via that way also.

Good luck!

hoozeyurdaddy 11-05-2007 08:32 AM

usually when a big block suffers from freeze damage, it breaks just above the oilpan mount on the in side, sometimes in the valley but that is usually small blocks,, hydro lock is possible, but thats a lot of water to get past the rings, head gasket and intake gasket are good possibilities, but if the boat was up here in utah, where frozen engines are common, I would bet on block.

schizm 11-05-2007 01:10 PM

Thanks for the replies guys. I don't think it was hydro-locked, the starter wouldn't even engage and the solenoid was clicking. A few hours after it quit (after i got towed in by a sweet 33' Baja) I fired it on the muffs with a fresh battery, it lit up as soon as it turned over. It would be nice if it was a head or intake gaskets so I wouldn't need to pull the motor.

Full Force 11-05-2007 10:35 PM

I just bought some BBC stuff, one of the blocks I had was "repaired" in the valley from a crack, anything is possible.

That block is now at the scrapyard, I cannot believe someone tried to JB weld a crack in a block!

MM1 11-06-2007 12:42 AM

Leaking riser gaskets will also cause the same thing

schizm 07-01-2008 08:22 PM

Well I thought I would revive this thread, last fall I just ran the motor with fresh oil and fogged it out. I finally got around to pulling the intake manifold tonight and everything looks fine, I don't think the gaskets were leaking as they appear to be in great shape. I didn't see any cracks in the lifter valley, is their a particular area in there that is prone to cracking? I guess my next move is to pull the heads off!:mad:

US1 Fountain 07-01-2008 08:36 PM

Can't go just by looking at the intake gaskets. Mine looked brand new (actually several set were) and still leaked like crazy.

Were your intake bolts all tight?

schizm 07-02-2008 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 2609945)
Can't go just by looking at the intake gaskets. Mine looked brand new (actually several set were) and still leaked like crazy.

Were your intake bolts all tight?

The intake bolts were all tight, it currently had a set of Felpro gaskets in it. Why were your intake gaskets leaking and what did you finally do to fix it?

US1 Fountain 07-03-2008 11:39 AM

High water presure from using a crossover and t-stat.

Also learned I had to go around on the intake bolt torque sequence approx 10x till all the bolts still retained torque. Also used the Felpro marine gaskets.

stevesxm 07-03-2008 12:26 PM

before you go any further, i would strongly suggest that you drain the oil and clean the system COMPLETELY. it will be a real pain but do it with deisel and every other trick you can find until you can put clean oil in it and get spotlessly clean oil out... then try the whole test sequence again....

you don't say but it seems like you don't really know where you were when you started... i would put 8 quarts of cheap oil in at after its spotlessly clean,, hook it back up to the muffs and do it all again... you might just find that all that water was in there before you started.and it doesn't take much to make that ugly immulsion.

you might be luckier than you think.


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