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hoozeyurdaddy 12-31-2007 11:55 AM

upgrading a 509
 
I'm looking for suggestions on upgrading a 509, It's going to need a bore due to minor watermarks in the cyl's, It's running a 256 blower w/superchiller and 6psi boost, 2 750 holley's built by nickerson, 525sc cam, flat tappet w/roller rockers, 502 bowtie heads rec. port, thinking about alum. heads and cam upgrade, but water ingestions seems to be a problem, It was disassembled for a blown head gasket between #5&7.
what is a good alum. head that will perform well but not break the bank, this boat gets run about 10 hours a year.
Thanks
Larry

racinfever 12-31-2007 09:16 PM

What type of headers are you using?

hoozeyurdaddy 01-01-2008 09:19 AM

it's running the Imco version of gil's with std length riseres, wet exaust.

Smitty 01-01-2008 12:33 PM

If you aren't already, make sure you use head studs when you put it back together. Also make sure to use Fel-pro MLS or similar head gskts. I have a Crane 731 roller cam for sale (Gen 6). It was on my 509's and with 8 lbs boost made 750 hp.

Griff 01-02-2008 01:17 AM

For an off the shelf cam, I'd use the 525EFI cam(Crane 741 on a 114 lob sep). Depending on if you change heads, you may want to go with a custom grind.

hoozeyurdaddy 01-02-2008 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 2389836)
For an off the shelf cam, I'd use the 525EFI cam(Crane 741 on a 114 lob sep). Depending on if you change heads, you may want to go with a custom grind.

is the crane 741 a roller cam, and if I go with alum. heads, what is a good head for someone on a budget, is the 502 mag rotating assy, going to be OK for this engine.
thanks for the replies.

hoozeyurdaddy 01-02-2008 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 2389212)
If you aren't already, make sure you use head studs when you put it back together. Also make sure to use Fel-pro MLS or similar head gskts. I have a Crane 731 roller cam for sale (Gen 6). It was on my 509's and with 8 lbs boost made 750 hp.

does arp make a stud kit, this is a mark 4, will a cam from a gen 6 work, does the cam have a lobe for the fuel pump, do you have the lifters also.
thanks, larry

5050 01-02-2008 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by hoozeyurdaddy (Post 2390116)
does arp make a stud kit, this is a mark 4, will a cam from a gen 6 work, does the cam have a lobe for the fuel pump, do you have the lifters also.
thanks, larry

Gen 6 cam will not work. You have get one for a Gen4.
Pro Comp aluminum heads are nice for the money.
$700 a pair with guides and seats or edelbrock marine complete are around $1500.

Griff 01-02-2008 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by hoozeyurdaddy (Post 2390107)
is the crane 741 a roller cam, and if I go with alum. heads, what is a good head for someone on a budget, is the 502 mag rotating assy, going to be OK for this engine.
thanks for the replies.

Yes, its a roller cam. As far as heads, I'm no expert. I have read the merlins really are not very good w/o some porting work. You get what you pay for. I would probably go with some AFR's. The Edlebrock Marine heads are pretty decent too and a good bang for the buck. The are what merc uses on the 525EFI. A friend made about 800hp with them on a whippled engine.

formula 382 sr-1 01-02-2008 04:01 PM

AFR's 315's $2800.00 a set , But you will love the power.:D


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