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CcanDo 01-05-2008 04:04 PM

Leak prevention from dry sump tank
 
What is the best method to keep oil from running back from the the dry sump tank to oil pan, after engine shut down ?

The only method I know is, a manual ball valve in the pressure line. However, if the engine is started without opening the ball valve, there will be an instant engine failure.

BenPerfected 01-05-2008 05:06 PM

How do you have it rigged now?

CcanDo 01-05-2008 05:30 PM

Tank to pump,nothing in between.

f311fr1 01-05-2008 05:48 PM

How about an air or electric actuated ball valve or two way solenoid valve. The acuated ball valve could be wired in so the engine could not start unless it is open. You can get them with switches to give an open or closed signal.

BenPerfected 01-05-2008 07:03 PM

How does Mercury Racing rig their dry sump tanks?

BenPerfected 01-05-2008 08:30 PM

Cat,
Check out page 54 at http://www.xrp.com/XRPCatalog.pdf
Maybe these flapper style check valves would work

CcanDo 01-05-2008 10:05 PM

The electric gate is a possible....Concern for that method includes, constant electrical load/draw while the ignition circuit is closed. Another concern, potential of the gate circuit failing while the ignition circuit is closed. Last,while all circuits are operating properly,the valve is at some risk of partially opening or even, not at all.

Ben, I don't know how Mercury plumbs their dry sump...good point, let's research that.

Ben, that flapper valve is a good find on your part ! The flappers we have for the valve covers work like XRP describes theirs. Concern with ours, as XRP explains, the valve opens easily with only a slight hydraulic columne load.

Incidently Ben, we ordered several valves at once

BenPerfected 01-06-2008 02:11 PM

Cat,
I asked a race shop owner/friend about dry sump rigging. He said that he wouldn't run any type check valve in the system as it might cause problems and isn't needed. He said just mount the oil filter higher that the oil level in the tank and nothing drains at shut down. The exception maybe the short line from the filter to the return point at engine...doesn't matter as it will fill instantly at start up.
Why valves of any type unless to clean out the oil system or maybe change the oil?

CcanDo 01-06-2008 02:30 PM

Ben, Reasons for thinking of a valve include;

1. oil change

2. tilt trailer

3. extended storage/siphon leak

I extended part of the above dialog to safeguard against encouraging someone to ultimately create a failure.

Did you get my PM ?

rdoactive 01-06-2008 02:50 PM

Simple/stupid..........
Could you lower the tank and/or loop the pump outlet above the high oil level in the tank?


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