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Warning Fram Oil Filter Recall!!
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WARNING FRAM FILTER RECALL!!! Beware Fram has a recall on the popular HP-4 oil filters. Please see attachment. The rubber o-rings are blowing out and puking all of the engines oil. |
Thank You
I have something to check tonight. |
With all the really good oil filters out there in the market, why would anybody by a Fram filter for use in an expensive marine high performance engine. Take the good ones and a Fram and cut them open and compare, it will most likely be the last Fram you buy. Remember that generally when big corporations spend more money on advertsizing than on product improvements the product usually suffers!. Make it sound good a sell a sh**load of em!
Regards, Ray @ Raylar |
Originally Posted by Raylar
(Post 2436274)
With all the really good oil filters out there in the market, why would anybody by a Fram filter for use in an expensive marine high performance engine. Take the good ones and a Fram and cut them open and compare, it will most likely be the last Fram you buy. Remember that generally when big corporations spend more money on advertsizing than on product improvements the product usually suffers!. Make it sound good a sell a sh**load of em!
Regards, Ray @ Raylar What would you suggest in replacement to the HP-4's? |
Ray,
I wouild also like to know which you recommend. I am running a Fram HP-6 A. I thought they were the filters to run. I am also surprised that the HP-6A is not part of the recall. Maybe because the case is bigger? |
I agree with Ray. Fram filters suck. They just have better marketing than yhe other guys out there. I always use WIX on all my vehicles. On my boat I use the WIX 51060R. It is the wix replacement for the hp4.
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Originally Posted by 320es
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I agree with Ray. Fram filters suck. They just have better marketing than yhe other guys out there. I always use WIX on all my vehicles. On my boat I use the WIX 51060R. It is the wix replacement for the hp4.
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FRAMS are junk. I wouldn't put them in a 20-year old beater.
Great thread here: http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=86056 |
Very interesting read and I appreciate the information.
Guess I have been one of the lucky ones as I have used the HP4 now for six years with no problems at all. Now I have to figure out what to do with the four I have in the shop. I think I will do the cut open and compare test. Thanks |
Originally Posted by Raylar
(Post 2436274)
With all the really good oil filters out there in the market, why would anybody by a Fram filter for use in an expensive marine high performance engine. Take the good ones and a Fram and cut them open and compare, it will most likely be the last Fram you buy. Remember that generally when big corporations spend more money on advertsizing than on product improvements the product usually suffers!. Make it sound good a sell a sh**load of em!
Regards, Ray @ Raylar |
If you need really high flow through the filter, why would you use a fram? I don't understand, less filter media means less flow! Especially when it clogs. If for some reason your oil filter didn't flow enough, wouldn't two in parallel be a better choice?
no fram for me, EVER, and this isn't a new thing. I have never used frame since seeing both insides. |
Originally Posted by Joe92GT
(Post 2436858)
If you need really high flow through the filter, why would you use a fram? I don't understand, less filter media means less flow! Especially when it clogs. If for some reason your oil filter didn't flow enough, wouldn't two in parallel be a better choice?
no fram for me, EVER, and this isn't a new thing. I have never used frame since seeing both insides. |
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I use the Wix .Wix makes most of the filters for Napa,just get the ones with the R in front of the part #They cheaper there also.
You can also get the fuel filters there,Theres a thread on the fuel filters here also.Ck out the fuel flow,gallons per minute http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ht=fuel+filter
Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
(Post 1582237)
I run the Napa /Wix filters. I did a little :rolleyes: research when I built my blower motors , Probably over kill and anal. but I know I don't have a fuel flow prob.
They have more flow capability's than most. I have a different adapter than the merc stuff its a 1x14 thread. Tere is some #'s to give ya an idea. #3005 flows 15gpm has a 3 micron rating and also had a drain in it measures 7.3x3.6 #3604 flow 15gmp 8 microns 9.7x3.6 it bigger 3604xe has a 2 :eek: micron rating same flow The XE series must have a different element inside for the smaller microns For the fuel filter adapter base like Teague,Cp,Trick has a 1inch x 12 thread Teagues filter is a fram it was the worse.Trick uses the wix.dont remember on the CP Part #'s 3418 flows 12-15GPM at 12 microns 8,419x3.698 about 8.00 at Napa Jobber #3123 15gpm 12 micron measures 6.629 x3.698 they all are about the same dia . the length makes a differance in flow. Napa Wix filter tech line 1800-949-6698 I ck with Teague and CP they rate theres at GPH Not GPM-Gallons Per Minute!!! So when they say it flows 140GPH it flows 2.33 gallons per minute Hope this makes ya think Rob :drink: |
Originally Posted by Joe92GT
(Post 2436858)
If you need really high flow through the filter, why would you use a fram? I don't understand, less filter media means less flow! Especially when it clogs. If for some reason your oil filter didn't flow enough, wouldn't two in parallel be a better choice?
no fram for me, EVER, and this isn't a new thing. I have never used frame since seeing both insides. |
Originally Posted by MM1
(Post 2437559)
If you filter clogs you have way bigger problems than what brand it is. More like which bearing it is and if the motor has that much material flowing through it its no going to matter what brand filter is on it.
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There was another thread on filters/Fram filters compared to some other brands a few months do a search.
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Originally Posted by MM1
(Post 2437559)
If you filter clogs you have way bigger problems than what brand it is. More like which bearing it is and if the motor has that much material flowing through it its no going to matter what brand filter is on it.
True,Like panning for gold in your oil pan:D Ive really have never heard anybody having a oiling problems with big block Chevys.I guess its over kill/good insurance |
I run the HP 4 filters on my personal boat as well as customers boats above 400 hp.
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I just went out and checked the two that I have in my garage and the numbers match the recall.:(
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I must have an old version of acrobat reader on this machine.
I tried to open it to answer my own question but no luck. Wanted to see if it was just the 4, or if the 5 is also effected. I use the 5 in my pickup all the time. (Used Mobil 1 in the boat tho) I change the oil in the truck frequently here at the house. I have had no problems with the 5 so far. If the 5 is involved, I'll change it out. I did once have a bosch that crushed when I put the filter wrnech on it, and it wasn't that overtightened. |
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