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nocigarette 03-01-2008 07:23 PM

Thermostate drilling (CROSSOVER)
 
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I have read most of the posts on crossover vs circ pump.....Here is my problem my water temp is to cold.....I need pics of somebody's thermostate that they have drilled....I run a crossover here is a pic......

DMOORE 03-01-2008 07:46 PM

More important than water temp, what is the oil temp? If you can run the water tempat 120-130 but the oil is at 210, your golden. A lot of guys run a oil thermostat/ bypass system for this reason.


Darrell.



Darrell.

nocigarette 03-02-2008 06:59 AM

I already have a oil thermo i just need a pic of where to drill the holes and how many....

ciaoderhead 03-02-2008 07:21 AM

Check this out....

http://www.gessford.com/cobraparts/Thermostat-08254.JPG

nocigarette 03-02-2008 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by ciaoderhead (Post 2467873)



Thanks a million that is exactly what i was looking for.............Now how big are those holes...

Ms PatriYacht 03-02-2008 10:31 AM

1/8 or 3/16. All you are doing is getting rid of steam pockets and smoothing out the temperature fluctuations. Arizona Speed and Marine has 120 deg. themostats. That's what I use. Damn I posted as Donna again, Ian

nocigarette 03-02-2008 11:12 AM

Thanks guys.........

team Tickfaw 03-03-2008 08:23 PM

I had heard somewhere you were supposed to drill a couple holes on the sides for use with x-overs. Is this wrong then?

PatriYacht 03-04-2008 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by team Tickfaw (Post 2469962)
I had heard somewhere you were supposed to drill a couple holes on the sides for use with x-overs. Is this wrong then?

??? It seem like that's what he's doing.

fastlane40 03-04-2008 02:35 PM

Nocigarette by drilling holes in your thermostat outer rim you will run colder.I hope i'm undestanding you correctly.I always run a crossover system and can dial in the temp as i want.You have a bypass already.For you to get warmer you need to go to a warmer thermostat.Still drill an 1/8" hole in the rim.Where i live i seem to be to hot.I drill sometimes 3, 3/16" holes in the rim and reduce flow through the bypass.I would suggest a 160 thermostat and start with one rim hole and go from there.

team Tickfaw 03-04-2008 04:16 PM

When I say sides I mean the side of the thermastat body and not the top rim. Do you have to run a bypass. When I purchased my boat it did not have bypass set up. Am I damaging anything. Had no problems thus far.
Thanks

PatriYacht 03-04-2008 04:26 PM

If you run a thermostat with a crossover, you must run a bypass. Not doing so results in not enough water going into the exhaust to cool it properly and too high water pressure when the therm. is closed. A couple of 1/8 holes will not flow enough water to make up for a bypass. No Cigarrete, I'm assuming that you were running without a thermostat before?Merc always used 140 degree thermostats in their carb engines. I'd feel safer running poker runs at 4000 rpms plus for long distance with a cool running engine.

team Tickfaw 03-04-2008 08:30 PM

I know this sounds dumb but....I am assuming that my x-over has a bypass because it has a short 1" hose coming out of the x-over into the thermastat housing with 2 more hoses coming out of thermastat housing and going to headers. Is this considered a bypass? It is a eddie marine thermastat housing that is tall, has a spring in it and a plastic peice that sits on top of this spring inside of housing. Boat came with this set up. Is this a by-pass set up? Have run this 1 season with 143 stats and 2 holes drilled in the outside body of stat. Do not have water press gauge or oil temp gauges. Engines run at 150-175*. When you are running say 4,000 rpm in summer you can watch temp gauge and see the temp start to drop when reaching 175 and levels out to 150 and then back up to 175*. I am supposing the thermastat opening and closing? Is this set up working as it should or am I headed for trouble.

fastlane40 03-05-2008 04:21 AM

Team Tickfaw,your setup sounds fine to me.If you are ever too hot drill another 1/8 hole in the thermostat.You do not have to run a bypass when you use a thermostat as long as you have at least 2 3/16 holes in the thermostat rim.I find it actually easier to "dial in" the prefered temp without a bypass because that way you know all the flow is going through the engine.Just remember the thermostat holes.More holes for cooler,less for warmer.

PatriYacht 03-05-2008 05:43 AM

Team Tickfaw, sounds like you have a bypass.

team Tickfaw 03-05-2008 04:37 PM

Thanks guys.

offthefront 03-05-2008 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by fastlane40 (Post 2471747)
Team Tickfaw,your setup sounds fine to me.If you are ever too hot drill another 1/8 hole in the thermostat.You do not have to run a bypass when you use a thermostat as long as you have at least 2 3/16 holes in the thermostat rim.I find it actually easier to "dial in" the prefered temp without a bypass because that way you know all the flow is going through the engine.Just remember the thermostat holes.More holes for cooler,less for warmer.


If you dont run the bypass you really need to monitor water pressure ... over 30lbs can be trouble .... I bet some post 30lbs is too hi ....

offthefront 03-05-2008 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by nocigarette (Post 2467859)
I already have a oil thermo i just need a pic of where to drill the holes and how many....


Just Curious ... what oil temps you running ? and water temps?

nocigarette 03-05-2008 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by offthefront (Post 2472882)
Just Curious ... what oil temps you running ? and water temps?

I actually run two senders one in the pan and one in the oil relocation housing...I have a toggle switch on the dash to swich from each....I run real low oil temps thats why i added the oil thermo this winter, my cooler is a monster.....Maybe 4 in by 22 in long, a big gil offshore cooler...


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