HP Increase Whipple
 

I have a couple Carbed 500 HP that were gone through a few years ago the are at 565 hp at 5400 rpm and have 850 Demon carbs also they are 9.25 to 1 compression.

Can I add 100 HP per motor whith Whipples with not to much problem?

Whipples will give you 200 to 250 HP easy.

100? Come on man, go for it! 100 is very, very, very, very easy. Would highly recommend 200hp, which again, is very, very, very, very easy!

Dustin

Dustin sorry to ask but is that easy , very easy or very, very, very easy?

Thanks for all the help buddy!

Dustin

What size should I use and should a?

inter cooler be involved?
Will the 850 Demon be enough carb

A single 3.3 liter with an intercooler is a must. You will need more carb for this setup. You will have to step up to a dominator. As a note, I build all of my Whipple supercharged motors with almost as much compression as you have. I have found that spinning the blower slower to make less power makes for an engine that is not as happy. Distribution from cylinder to cylinder is not as good with a slower spinning blower and air/fuel ratio from bank to bank starts to differ. Take the free horsepower and spin it. You will not regret it, but your Bravo may. That is an awesome blower package. Give me a shout if I can help.
Eddie

I agree with Eddie the engines will run better turning the blowers the only concern I have is any time I've ever made over 750hp with the stock dimple rods I've had trouble also John at AED makes a 4150 carb that flows over 900cfm I use on my blower packages and works really well I like the idle quality and mid range better then with Dominators but you can get them to work well too. Best of luck keep us posted. SIncerely Laz Mesa
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If you want to keep it under 900hp, then our Gen 2 3.3 SC is more than enough for you. Eddie is correct about your carb, too small, should go to a 1050 dominator.

If you really only wanted 100hp, then an intercooler is not necessarily required, but the value added for the IC far exceeds the risk of no intercooler, so I would plan to IC it.

A W305 would work really well, but it's far more expensive, and will just be loafing around, yet you'll have the ability to make basically whatever power level you want, it all depends on the lower end. There is zero distribution problems with the large W305. It has a built in deflector plate and a 2" plenuem chamber above IC.

Thanks,
Dustin

Why just 100?

I have a Cig Bullet built the 500hps 3 years ago has bravos have not popped a drive yet has xr vert shafts I baby it out of the hole but if I go more then 120 hp barvos get iffy. Would not mind more and just swap into the gun when I get it because it will have ssm 3s on it but for know 100 would be fine

If you really only wanted 100hp, then an intercooler is not necessarily required, but the value added for the IC far exceeds the risk of no intercooler, so I would plan to IC it.

A W305 would work really well, but it's far more expensive, and will just be loafing around, yet you'll have the ability to make basically whatever power level you want, it all depends on the lower end. There is zero distribution problems with the large W305. It has a built in deflector plate and a 2" plenuem chamber above IC.

Thanks,
Dustin[/QUOTE]


Dustin

I sent you email before reading this thread . And those intercoolers never left the back of my mind for my 305's
project , anyway which intercooler could be able to get 100 MPH with twin 555 CI motors in my 89 38' fever ? my lower end can handle it now , it will all be left up to XR's to drive them . unless XPOWER Drives become an option then the intercoolers would be required!

Howard

Klaw -

When you are ready email me and I'll get your pricing!!

I can also recommend the guys to rebuild those drives!!

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Kirk

hello dustin,
I have a similar set up, a pair of 540 ci dart motors 9.0-1 compression dart iron eagle 308 heads. they dynoed at 580hp
I would like to get 800-850hp. will the whipple 3300 carbed do this for me or do i need to lower the compression?:evilb:
thanks
steve

Im hijacking too. I have a stock 454 mag and may want to supercharge.

What supercharger do You recommend? I assume Ill need a holly 850and new fuel pump. Will I need a new intake? I believe my block is a mark IV.

Dustin

I sent you email before reading this thread . And those intercoolers never left the back of my mind for my 305's
project , anyway which intercooler could be able to get 100 MPH with twin 555 CI motors in my 89 38' fever ? my lower end can handle it now , it will all be left up to XR's to drive them . unless XPOWER Drives become an option then the intercoolers would be required!

Howard[/QUOTE]


Howard,

Not sure on speed pickup, what did you do before? Intercoolers are pretty cheap insurance, and give you the ability to "go after" more power very easily. You would only need our IC-2 which is 8" wide, 2.5" thick, 12" long. This is more than enough for you.

For Klaw, same thing, this is the middle IC, and will give you all you need, but we do have a IC-1 which is 4" wide, 2.5" thick and 10" long, it's a bit undersized, but would be a cheap option. This requires our smaller manifold, but it's good for up to 850hp. This won't fit with the 305, because it's a smaller manifold.

Thanks,
Dustin

You can do the same, run the 3.3 with 5-6psi, 28-30deg timing, 11.5:1 air fuel ratio. With IC, you can easily make 800-850hp safely. You'll need 1050 carb.

Thanks,
Dustin

Same sc, smaller IC and manifold. More than enough for your motor. 850 Holley will work really well. We typically use the Mallory 140M electric pump. 6psi, 91 octane, you'll be right at 600-625hp. Install some exhaust, you can add another 25hp.

Dustin

holy crap Ill go from 360hp(stock) to 600? I am running a labbed 23 right now. probably need a labbed 27 after?

Sorry, was thinking of 385hp with hydr roller, you'll be closer to 550-575hp.

Thanks,
Dustin

thank you dustin for the info.
sorry for jacking the thread just needed some quick info:evilb::party-smiley-020:

Holy crap is right!!!
I have the option of using any blower out there. I am a dealer for just about all of them. I have used all of them from a PSI to a roots to a Procharger. If I am building a new supercharged engine, it is getting a Whipple. The only time I use anything else is if it is an existing setup. I'm doing a Procharged engine right now, but only because the customer had the Procharger already. I don't have anything against the other blowers, most of them are great pieces. I just think the Whipple is the best all around blower. Like I said, I have my choice to use any of them, and I choose to run the Whipples.
Eddie

Give me ball park numbers for cost.

MSRP is roughly $5900. Then factor in a Holley 850, labor, etc. It's best to purchase from someone who can set you up with everything. Should also install fuel psi, vacuum/boost and water psi gauges.

Dustin

I am the guy that is getting Eddie's Procharged motor. He is taking my unsightly Black motor and making it into a work of art. I am looking forward to the results. He has done a masterful job of taking some things I already had, saving me some cash and building me some big power. Before I started in on this I thought about scrapping my stuff and starting over with a Whipple. From a cost standpoint and from the standpoint that Eddie is able to build a cool looking setup from what I provided, I am happy with my current route. It is also something I have wanted to do for a while so I like the idea.

That being said, if I was starting from the beginning I would probably go Whipple. They build one cool looking system and the initial cost difference is not all that much. As one that has been around blower motors for a few years, I would highly recommend getting someone like Eddie to set you up with everything you need. I did my first blower project before I did business with Eddie. I learned a bunch on my own and probably got dang lucky on a few occasions. Since I have started in on having a custom motor built, I have learned exponentially more. That does not mean that I don't think someone that is pretty mechanically inclined can not install a whipple kit. I have had friends that have done that type of project with good success and I applaud them. It is just not for everyone.

In the end I am a big fan of boost.

The only thing I didnt like about the Pro Charger is the fuel pressure,I would rather do a bypass system and do the right map for a constant fuel presure.