Has anyone used/tried this??????
 

Griswald is using it down in texas on his blown fountain, Jason Smith is using it on his blown Baja,I posted a thread last year when they first started offering it to the public. I plan on buying it soon too,Smitty

Very user friendly program. You guys will like it.

Thanks for the reply's. I'll give them a call Monday and inquire about any possible discount for buying more than one @ a time.

I have it. It worked great. I was able to get my Velocity tuned in perfect with it. Very easy to use compared to some of the other engine management systems I have/used.

Frank

Good to here positive feedback.....Thanks

I ordered the MEFIBurn SW today. should see it by Fri. Maybe I'll now be able to shed some light on my motor issues, maybe not tuning yet but seeing live status of the motor/sensors. Once I get a feel for the new SW I'd be more than willing to hook it up to others in my area for troubleshooting purposes, seeing as most dealers locally don't want to touch anything with mods, prochager etc. I will post after I get a chance to use/learn it.
Jason

I also ordered it yesterday.... This should get interesting!!!!

I got mine today.:D I want to thank Ken at MEFIBurn for the great service. Hopefully the weather will hold. I'll post with results.
Jason

Dude? :confused: wheres mine??? I ordered it a day before you and I'm only one state away????:eek: I'm totally anxious !!!

I had it shipped priority mail. I now have it installed on my PC. It installs easy, very user friendly. Just follow the read me text and you'll be fine. Friday I hope to use it and unlock the mystery of my slow boat to china. I was getting to the point of planting flowers in it and putting water in it instead of around it.:D

What speed are currently seeing and what are you estimating HP at?

Not following the concept here. Does the standard version just show you the motor readings? What is the burning part....surely not reprogramming the ECM?

Last year I was seeing low 80's on gps, whatever was failing seems to have failed and now I'm seeing 70's. As far as the HP #'s I have no idea as the motor,as of yet, has never been on a dyno.

US1.....I don't know how to do double quotes. Both versions you can see live motor readings. The professional version is for MEFI4 and above, from what I'm told. The burning part is, yes a reflash of the ECM. You need to upload you current ECM program, modify it and then download it to the ECM. Yes you are able to re-tune your ECM. It is not a tune on the fly operation as I described above. I am merely using it for troubleshooting now, after I may tweak the program.

WOW!
Looks like this is something I might be real interested in!
I have been thinking of the factory units but at $6 bills its not in my budget.
However for 2 bills I can get exactly what I want, to just be able to 'view' what is going on with the motors!
I am not looking to push the limit and fine tune, well not as of yet anyway :)

Thanks for the find :)

I can testify on this software now.....

The first thing I noticed is the customer service offered by the company... they were happy to answer my questons instead of being put out. It cost me $595 which is considerable, especially since I was already down $400 for programming, but I figured AZS&M wants $500 for a one time shot anyway so if it worked out I wasn't really loosing much.

The second thing I noticed was the product shipped quickly and was easy to install.

The standard edition scan and tune lets you upload and download the program in the ecu. It also allows you to open a locked program (if you have the password) or erase the locked program and upload a different program all together.

Now!!!! here is the scary part! Once you have downloaded the .bin file (program) from your ecu onto your laptop, it can be used in conjunction with another program that will enable you to observe and manipulate many parameters ( I'm talking several hundred) I was scared to touch the damn thing and began to have buyers remorse. Luckily I called Bob at MEFIburn and he calmed me down and offered alot of help and suggested I read up on a few things regarding fuel injection.

One of the benefits of purchasing the software is that you get access to a library of programs which you can apply to your motor. In my case were are talking a 454mag with a procharger. I received a program from Bob and started there. I will say he know his chit, because the boat was immeadiately better than before.

Next thing I did was learn a little language pertaining to fuel injection. I have built several carbed motors, but never played with injection. After gaining enough knowledge to be dangerous I grabbed my laptop and hit the lake.

I had installed a Innovate LM-1 02 sensor so I could monitor AFR's and the programs included with the Mefiburn software offered complete realtime scanning of the engine so I could moniter every aspect of the engine function. I made several small adjustments to spark, timing, IAC counts, rev limit, base pulse width, boost multipliers and so on. It is scary and you have to take small steps, but once you see how the changes effect the engine you gain confidence. Ultimately I took about four hours and then I ran out of gas because that is the one guage I forgot to watch. What a retard!!! I'm sure I could have done it faster, but It was a learning experience the whole way.

My testiment is this........... the boat runs excellent!!!! I have managed to scare myself sh!tless with my new found speed and with my stock Merc. cable/hydraulic steering. My engine sees good AFR's through out the entire rpm range including full boost and this gives me confidence to run it. I went to Havasu for Memorial and ran about a 100 miles on the water and got excellent gas milage.

:D:DI am stoked with this purchase and look forward to using it every time I modify this or any other engine with a mefi controller.:D:D

Nice, but can you reset the hour meter in the ecu :party-smiley-004: I hope not.

:confused:

Good question..... I never checked.... I'm not sure if thats good or bad??? My engine is brand spanking new, but I would not want someone resetting the ecu every season and then sticking you with a worn out motor when selling it.

Hmmmmm?

Trawfish,

Congradulations on going down the right path... I have been saying this in some of the threads on OSO, and EFI that is programmable is the way to go.. It is even better, when you can go to a full closed loop sequential and have total control and build in some feedback monitoring and adjustment.. Then you can just set it, and go anywhere, and have altitude compensation etc. all automated...! Supercharged or not..!!

I'm curious if you are logging with dual widebands on your LM-1 using the aux box, or just using a narrow band or wide band and the LM-1 without the aux box...

(I plan on using dual widebands in my headers for datalogging.)

Please post some of your findings when you experiment..:ernaehrung004:

Thanks,

Richard

Update
 

After getting familiar with the sw, reading and talking to Bob at MEFIBurn. I went through my current flash in the ECM(compared to a stock 502MEFI1 program). The only change was in the fuel map. Above 3200 RPM there is a ton of fuel dumped into the motor with no more timing. Huh I wonder why my motor would not RPM!:mad: This was the only change I saw in the program. I have done away with the extreme jump in fuel and added a bit 1-2* of timing for starters. I have yet to run the boat due to the weather in the midwest. I just wanted to let you guys know what was going on. This was money well spent. No more guessing on a program for my motor, just some tuning time. I'll post some numbers after I get it out.

I'm to lazy to read all the way back.....Are you running an 02 meter? My first go around with a "professional" hack, I mean programmer had huge amounts of fuel.... so much that I could not get the boat on plane, let alone up in rpm.

If you will be getting into boost, you don't want to be adding timing and taking away fuel, but possibly retarding to avoid detonation. An AFR meter will guide you safely through the woods .

Yes I am running an LM-1. I didgo up in timing as the factory tune is about 25* per the mefi program. I only went to 27* around 3200 when at WOT 26*. just a staring point. I will watch my LM-1 and MEFIBurn real close as I like the way it sounds, running.
I only took a bit of fuel out it jumped from around 7.8 to 12.5 @ 3200. it still is getting more fuel than stock but not turning the choke on:grinser010: as far as the having it reprogrammed professionally it was yes a waste of time and money. Anyway no hard feeling on that I only did it once. Like I said in my e-mail to you congrats on getting it running better. I hope to have mine running soon but it seems to be monsoon season around here latlely.

Holy cow!:eek: I can't beleive it even ran at 7.8 afr.... sounds like youre on the right track :drink:

You have monsoon season in WI ???

7.8 is the value in the SW 9.8 were the afr's at idle and WOT.
Yes it has been raining here a lot. most of the rivers are overflowing their banks and we have had a few dam breaks. I hope it will pass soon and we can get back to a normal season.

Did you guys buy the std version or the pro version. When you bought your lm-1 did you buy the rpm adapter so you could re-call what rpm you were at when recording afr's,I never scheduled any time for water testing with Crockett since dyno tuning my motor last year on his dyno,I know its fat on my N/A tune so I'm thinking about buying the stuff and doing my own tuning mainly because I don't have time to drive 100 miles and spend a day tuning with him this year,Smitty

Just the standard edition scan and tune will allow you to do everyting you want. You can change like 900 things with it!!

I did not buy the rpm converter so I have to scribble on a pad of paper while watching the scanner on the laptop and the lm-1 meter. It would be nice to have them together and create one log, but unless you have like a mefi4 that was already set up to read 02, or did some pin outs to adapt for it, I don't know how to make the lm-1 work with the scanner software. Even with the rpm converter the lm-1 still wont tell you the MAP reading so you can't be sure which table to address.

I just write down my RPM/MAP/AFR and then adjust BPW in the corresponding table... a little time consuming, but it works well.

Oh! and just fyi.... if you are going to buy an lm-1 don't order their serial port to usb adapter. I went through all kinds of trouble with it and ended buying a $40 Belkin adapter from Best Buy that worked great. Thought it was cause I am running Vista, and finally determined the cable was just bad. $29.99 plus shipping in the hole!

When I did on the water tuning with Crockett last time he would have me hold it at a certain rpm until the afr's stabilized on his lm-1 while he watched the screen on his laptop,he would make a adjustment to the fuel tables and we would re-test at same rpm. When we got to the higher speeds where it was just impossible for him to do much other then just hold on he would data log the run then play it back and make adjustments,I thought watching his laptop it showed what bar/map table we were running in at the time/rpm but he had a different version of sotware too,not sure how it compares to mef-burn,Smitty

Sounds about the same as the MEFIburn, except you have to remember what the AFR was at a certain RPM and the corresponding MAP as those are the variables for the BPW fuel tables. I had to write it down as I was watching two different screens. I suppose I could have started both logs at the same time and referred back to them to make adjustments, but I probably would have screwed that up.

It sounds like he could adjust while on the fly. The MEFI burn will only let you make the adjustments and then load the whole program again, so everytime you make an adjustment you have to re-load it.

The scanner screen lookes like this!
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So Tyler now what ya gonna do with all that saved time :ernaehrung004:

Same here. I just write down the AFR and the RPM then I compare it to what the MEFIBurn has logged. I just leave my laptop on the front seat and let it record. I did not order the usb/serial adaptor seeing as I have one, works fine. It's and IBM pn22P9035. I'm running Vista as well, trawfish did you have any issues with the computer locking up during data logging? I has happened once so far.

No, I have had it skip a little, but I found if you make sure the cable is clear of any ignition parts it wont act up so much. I guess the ignition noise creates issues. I think I once read you can get a shielded cable?

Trawfish,again I apologize for your unsatisfactory experience with Crockett,I know I am partially resposible because I endorse his work and reccomended him. He is a friend of mine and has always done excellent tuning for me but I know that doesn't help your situation or give you the satisfaction you were looking for. It is difficult to tune a procharged motor without tuning it on the water or on the dyno,I'm sure things would have been different if Tyler could have tuned it in person.
As far as the bell/cartech regulator,you are the first person I have heard of who was able to properly tune the afr's on a procharged motor without raising the fuel pressure substationally. I originally set my boat up with one after not being able to get enough fuel pressure consitantly on the top end years ago and I shared the info w/tyler,we both have used this regulator on procharged motors and I have reccomended it to many others who used it to solve their procharger fuel pressure tuning issues. What kind of fuel press did you end up with at wot,I am convinced your injectors must flow more fuel then most stock ones (usually 42lb or 38 lb per hr),it seems this must be behind your rich conditions. It is more ideal to have a set-up where the 2 bar map sensor and injector p/w takes care of the engines extra fuel needs (like yours) versus boosting the fuel pressure up to the moon (a crude but effective solution). I am glad to hear that you do have your engine properly tuned now and can put this behind you and enjoy your boat,be safe driving it. I recently ordered the mefi-burn software for myself so I can fine tune my current mefi4 ecms on the water,my blown set-up seems pretty close to perfect but I especially want to fine tune my N/A program. I have had Tyler do this in the past and would just have him do it now but I am working 96-112 hours a week right now and it looks like the onlytime I will have to tune it will be over the 4th of july weekend,I plan on working on it a few hours each morning when the lake traffic isn't busy. I am ordering a lm-1,not sure if I'm going to get the rpm adapter or not. I plan on putting another mefi4 I have on a pontiac engine in my 74 transam so I need to learn how to work with the stuff myself. Enjoy your boat,I hope to have my out soo,Smitty

As far as AZSM,years ago I tried getting technical answers/help from them on tuning questions on my set-up,the kid I talked to on the phone (he insisted he was their efi tech) contradicted himself in the same conversation and insisted I needed to send him my complete intake manifold just to convert it to bigger injectors. I didn't have a warm fuzzy feeling after talking to them and never did business with them,Smitty

Smitty,
Good to hear from you... I don't really wanna talk about your buddy anymore, he just keeps trying to turn this around on me and i'm tired of it.

I don't think the Bell reg. is a bad thing, I just ended up not needing it, but I totally agree with it's function. Who knows, I might find I will need it later. I am still waiting to upgrade to something like Lightning headers for some better flow later on. I will need to re-program when I add those, and your are right... everything says my injectors should be to small, but the AFR's don't lie. I have reset the meter a few times just to be sure :D

Setting up a 74' T/A huh? Are we talking black with gold bird and through hood cowl? The first car I built was a 70' Formula 400 about 22 years ago. Ahh the ol' Mallory Dual Point and tuning with a Dwell meter! Good Times! I had a 79 Firebird Esprit after that with a 301... What a turd! I switched to chevys after that and stuck with them. Are you putting in a crate motor, or converting the original to EFI ?

I was looking at the Ramjet 502 crate set up's a while back for another project, but things got dragged out and pricey this winter, so I will have to wait. I have seen a few in the local muscle cars and they seem to put up good numbers. I think it would be great use your new software to tune one of those. I think they run mefi4's. I had a few people state the GM program was a bit rough and had to have AZS&M clean it up. That would be cool to be able to do it yourself in your own sweet time.

Good luck!

Heres a pic of the T/A,I just came in from the shop from going thru the "built" quadrajet I shelled out 300$ for that doesn't work correctly,this winter the motor is going from a 400 to a 455 and getting efi. I have almost enough left over parts to build another 540 but my pontiac buddies would hang me,Smitty

[QUOTE=trawfish;2589629]#1 I apologize to Warlock28SXT for ruining this thread with a pissing match

No need to apologize,thanks though. It definitely was not my intention to start this to end up stepping on any toes. I only had my ECM reprogrammed once. The only issue I have with it is the long distance. Sending the ECM away and waiting for it to return kind of takes the instant gratification out o f the equation. I have heard good things about all of the above mentioned programmers. I have only used one. I am glad to here you are running good now. I feel we all have learned that prochargers are kind of a PIA to set up, every motor is different. Anyway enjoy your boat. I have some time now and the weather is finally clearing up. I hope to get the boat out this weekend to go through the tuning step by step. I would love to get it dialed in soon seeing as our season is soooooo short up here.
Jason

Thats a pretty good looking car for it's age. I see the plastic front bumper/grill assembly didn't warp and crack like they do so badly out here is AZ. Im a little jealous:D

[QUOTE=Warlock28SXT;2589984]If you get into it, let me know what you end up with for total spark advance at full boost. I am being real conservative and have alot of boost retard pluged in but I will probably play with it the next time I put the tuner on it. I have been all zeros on knock so far, so lets hope I don't kill something:eek: