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ls1nova 05-12-2008 01:27 PM

NGK spark plug heat range question
 
Ok guys I'm getting ready to order plugs for my engines. I'm thinking about ordering r5671A-8 NGK's. Here are the engine spec's
502 - AFR 315's, 8.75 to 1, Naturaly Aspirated, Holley HP 1000 carbs, DUI ignition (HEI).

Do you think the "8" heat range is a good starting point for me, or should I go hotter/colder?

Thanks,
Frank

ThruHull 05-12-2008 01:43 PM

Frank,

I would start with the 6 heat range and go from there. From personal experience I would rather go too cold than too hot.

baja36ft 05-12-2008 02:27 PM

the lower the number the hotter the plug on ngk's but 6 is agood start....

ThruHull 05-12-2008 03:10 PM

Sorry for the confusing post, baja is correct on NGk. I think their heat range runs 2-12 with the lower the number being a hotter plug, which is opposite of AC Delco.

DMOORE 05-12-2008 03:33 PM

An 8 is pretty much what i run in almost all of my N/a motors... Everything from 2 stroke dirt bikes to hot rod big blocks. We run 9's in some of the race aplications but they will tend to load up more if ideling much. Just my .02.


Darrell.

MESABALANCING 05-12-2008 04:39 PM

Guys the best way to find the correct plugs heat range is by reading what the engine asking for for example if the plugs that are in the engine now have the lower three threads discolored from heat this would be the correct heat range plug if the plug only had two threads of discolored you would go with the next hotter plug if you had four threads worth of heat you go colder this is the way I tune for optimumheat range and it is possible to have two engines side by side in a boat with two different heat range plugs. So if you want to get it right after you change the plugs make a couple of passes and use this as a rule if you're too hot or too cold you know how to fix it . This is the same for every engine two stroke or four I hope this helps you it's taken me along time to figure it out and I use this method from my sons race karts which are two stroke to my 1200hp race and poker run engines. Best of luck as always SIncerely Laz Mesa
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BenPerfected 05-12-2008 05:08 PM

I agree with the NGK 8's for low compression, NA general use. We only used 9's for racing.

blue thunder 05-12-2008 07:06 PM

Interesting. I was running r43xls last yr NA. Per Laz's method it looks like 2 turns of color on those plugs, so a tad cool. This yr I am running 4lb boost so I wanted to go 2 sizes cooler than the 43s to 41s. Those I could not find, so I went to the NGK site and crossed it to an NGK plug. I found the equivilant plug to be a BPR5EA - L - 11 per their site. It seems that 8s would be too cool, but I don't know. Take it for what it is worth LS!.

axapowell 05-12-2008 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by ls1nova (Post 2555418)
Ok guys I'm getting ready to order plugs for my engines. I'm thinking about ordering r5671A-8 NGK's. Here are the engine spec's
502 - AFR 315's, 8.75 to 1, Naturaly Aspirated, Holley HP 1000 carbs, DUI ignition (HEI).

Do you think the "8" heat range is a good starting point for me, or should I go hotter/colder?

Thanks,
Frank

Frank,

I have basically the same motors with a similar set-up and I have tried both the "9's" and "8's". I have found the 8's run cleaner and the read is good.

Dave

axapowell 05-12-2008 07:54 PM

Frank,

I also have a few sets of 8's here...Do you need a set?

PM me!

Dave

DMOORE 05-12-2008 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by blue thunder (Post 2555812)
Interesting. I was running r43xls last yr NA. Per Laz's method it looks like 2 turns of color on those plugs, so a tad cool. This yr I am running 4lb boost so I wanted to go 2 sizes cooler than the 43s to 41s. Those I could not find, so I went to the NGK site and crossed it to an NGK plug. I found the equivilant plug to be a BPR5EA - L - 11 per their site. It seems that 8s would be too cool, but I don't know. Take it for what it is worth LS!.



Man, a #5 seems REALLY hot for a blower motor. Sure the cross reference is correct?


Darrell.

blue thunder 05-13-2008 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by DMOORE (Post 2556127)
Man, a #5 seems REALLY hot for a blower motor. Sure the cross reference is correct?


Darrell.

No, I am not sure. So I called NGK. They said you can't trust the distributor cross ref sites. Holy Shiet! They recommended 7s or 8s. I ordered race series 9s to replace these 5s. Thanks for the heads up before I started breaking stuff DMoore! :hitfan:.

DMOORE 05-13-2008 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by blue thunder (Post 2556847)
No, I am not sure. So I called NGK. They said you can't trust the distributor cross ref sites. Holy Shiet! They recommended 7s or 8s. I ordered race series 9s to replace these 5s. Thanks for the heads up before I started breaking stuff DMoore! :hitfan:.



No problem at all. I was just looking at that #5 and thinking, I've never ran a plug that hot in any aplication before.


Darrell.

ls1nova 05-15-2008 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by axapowell (Post 2555855)
Frank,

I have basically the same motors with a similar set-up and I have tried both the "9's" and "8's". I have found the 8's run cleaner and the read is good.

Dave

Thanks for the info Dave! How much total timing are you running in your motors?

Frank

ls1nova 05-15-2008 08:56 AM

Thanks for all the input guys. I talked with the ngk tech line and they suggested I start off with a 6 and go from there. I actually ended up getting 7's to start with, but I have a feeling I may end up with 8s in there.

Frank

axapowell 05-15-2008 08:59 AM

I am running a Crane HI-6M and set initial at 16* the box puts in an additional 20 (all in) at 2500 rpms for a total of 36*.

That was on the advice of Bob Teague. Never a problem after 125 hours of running!

PM me your number if you want to talk!

Dave

Wobble 05-15-2008 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by ls1nova (Post 2558775)
Thanks for all the input guys. I talked with the ngk tech line and they suggested I start off with a 6 and go from there. I actually ended up getting 7's to start with, but I have a feeling I may end up with 8s in there.

Frank

I have been running 7's for years per the NGK tech recommendation. NA motor iron heads and 9.3-1 compression.

Tried 8's and found them a little more prone to foul, though they would always clear out when I made it out of the first no-wake


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