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pokerrunboats 05-29-2008 12:43 AM

600 SCI Upgrade to 700 HP now available
 
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back from the dyno in Italy we received our engines back with 110 more HP per engine

The Kit is devoloped by an Italien Company on the Lamborghini Dyno in Modena Italy

Itr contains a reprogrammed PCM 555 ECU (with all guardian and smartcraft functions), a camshaft and a pully - thats all you have to change

We will distribute the kit in Europe -
Our first Dealer in the USA will be Raylar
www.raylarengine.com

there are two different Programms available - one with full torque and one with a reduced torque in Midrange RPM for stock Bravo XR applications

stock torque of a 600 SCI is 600 lbf-ft (83 kilopond meter or 830 NM )

maximum torque now is 752 lbf-ft (104 kilopond meter or 1040 NM)

Canada Jeff 05-29-2008 06:03 AM

Thats more like it. Good on you. Congrats!

Make it a Double 05-29-2008 07:19 AM

Will this program also be available for the Raylar 496 kit?

pokerrunboats 05-29-2008 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Make it a Double (Post 2573170)
Will this program also be available for the Raylar 496 kit?

The Programm file will be put into the PCM of the 600 - it will not work on a 496 - only on a 600 SCI

For every programm modification , once an engine needs to run on the dyno - After That we can copy the file into any engine of the same specs

If you need a custom programm for your 496 Raylar Kit call Ray @ raylar

We offer an ECM Modification, not a software to do it yourself !

800XCR 05-29-2008 07:22 PM

Do you have an email address, I have some questions?

Thanks

Whipple Charged 05-29-2008 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by pokerrunboats (Post 2573068)
back from the dyno in Italy we received our engines back with 110 more HP per engine

The Kit is devoloped by an Italien Company on the Lamborghini Dyno in Modena Italy

Itr contains a reprogrammed PCM 555 ECU (with all guardian and smartcraft functions), a camshaft and a pully - thats all you have to change

We will distribute the kit in Europe -
Our first Dealer in the USA will be Raylar
www.raylarengine.com

there are two different Programms available - one with full torque and one with a reduced torque in Midrange RPM for stock Bravo XR applications

stock torque of a 600 SCI is 600 lbf-ft (83 kilopond meter or 830 NM )

maximum torque now is 752 lbf-ft (104 kilopond meter or 1040 NM)


If you go to the 700sci boost/pulley speed, yet, use the 600sci intercooler core, then you'll exceed the maximum manifold temperature. Might be better to keep it at 75hp, stock camshaft, stock pulley. I'll soon be releasing our bigger SC (4.0Liter) for the 600/662/700 packages, will keep the IAT's down significantly.

Thanks,
Dustin

MahopacMarine 05-29-2008 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Whipple Charged (Post 2573971)
If you go to the 700sci boost/pulley speed, yet, use the 600sci intercooler core, then you'll exceed the maximum manifold temperature. Might be better to keep it at 75hp, stock camshaft, stock pulley. I'll soon be releasing our bigger SC (4.0Liter) for the 600/662/700 packages, will keep the IAT's down significantly.

Thanks,
Dustin


:Score-101010:

Your phone will be ringing soon Dustin.

pokerrunboats 05-29-2008 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by 800XCR (Post 2573836)
Do you have an email address, I have some questions?

Thanks

[email protected]



For Europe we offer a 42 Month warranty on engine and drive when installed from us ! This is as unique as the reprograming of the PCM 555

If Intake temps were too high the engine would loose a lot of power and go into guardian - it does not !
Maybe thats an issue in areas with water and air temps in the 80 `s
The larger intercooler of the 700 SCI is an option, but it will not fit under everybodys hatch -
Maybe someonen has a more efficient intercooler with the same Dimensions as the stock unit - that would be a great addition

pokerrunboats 05-29-2008 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by Whipple Charged (Post 2573971)
I'll soon be releasing our bigger SC (4.0Liter) for the 600/662/700 packages, will keep the IAT's down significantly.

Thanks,
Dustin

will this kit run on modified or stock PCM 555 or on a MEFI 4 like your Kit for the Mercury Racing 525

Canada Jeff 05-30-2008 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by pokerrunboats (Post 2574133)
[email protected]



For Europe we offer a 42 Month warranty on engine and drive when installed from us !

JESUS !!! on a bravo drive ???? Your going to go broke.....

Whipple Charged 05-30-2008 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by pokerrunboats (Post 2574133)
[email protected]



For Europe we offer a 42 Month warranty on engine and drive when installed from us ! This is as unique as the reprograming of the PCM 555

If Intake temps were too high the engine would loose a lot of power and go into guardian - it does not !
Maybe thats an issue in areas with water and air temps in the 80 `s
The larger intercooler of the 700 SCI is an option, but it will not fit under everybodys hatch -
Maybe someonen has a more efficient intercooler with the same Dimensions as the stock unit - that would be a great addition

On Mercury 700SCI:
80deg F ambient temp
85deg F inlet temp (inside hatch)
60deg F lake temp
55 second run @ WOT =
139deg F manifold air temp below IC
159deg F engine temp

To me, this was a below average temperature for boating. Where I live, it's constantly hotter than this, especially water temp. This was boarderline, with a 1" thicker IC core which removes another 25-30deg F.

Dyno testing typically does not show this, since swept test does not give the engine time to build more heat.

I got the intercooler handled, we brought the cupronickel to the high performance world, in fact, we introduced it to Mercury Racing. Problem with upgrading is $$, cupronickel pricing has gone off the charts with the ever increasing copper price.

Thanks,
Dustin

Back4More 07-12-2008 10:13 AM

So when is Mercury going to wise up and run the 305/5.0 in stead of those measly Lysholms?

Whipple Charged 07-13-2008 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by Back4More (Post 2620886)
So when is Mercury going to wise up and run the 305/5.0 in stead of those measly Lysholms?

Not sure, but I'm working on a upgrade kit for some of the motors, since they're having some issues with SC longevity.

Back4More 07-14-2008 04:15 PM

You mean like an induction swap out for an 850 or 1075?
With like more HP to boot?:cool:

socalstone 07-14-2008 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Whipple Charged (Post 2621339)
Not sure, but I'm working on a upgrade kit for some of the motors, since they're having some issues with SC longevity.

What are the issues? and at how many hours?

Whipple Charged 07-14-2008 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by socalstone (Post 2622958)
What are the issues? and at how many hours?

We've seen alot of supercharger failures on the 1075 and 1200. This is related to blower speed and the duty cycle of the supercharger. Running larger SC's at slower speeds is far more reliable. So we have new 2.9 liter superchargers, 4.0 liter and 8.3 liter superchargers that were working on retrofitting kits so customers don't have to replace SC's as often. The 600 and 700 are extremely reliable, but it's a good idea to have the SC's rebuilt every 300 (700sci) (400 for 600sci) hours for customers that run there's hard. They'll certainly last longer, but it's good to replace bearings and seals before there is an issue.

We've been doing this for awhile.

Thanks,
Dustin

Strip Poker 388 07-14-2008 05:57 PM

would the temp climb if run longer than 55 second run @ WOT ? Also would the 500efi 3.3 run longer also climb?



Dustin is the 8.3 liter a lot bigger looking than the 5.0? Picture?:D:D

Whipple Charged 07-14-2008 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 2623050)
would the temp climb if run longer than 55 second run @ WOT ? Also would the 500efi 3.3 run longer also climb?



Dustin is the 8.3 liter a lot bigger looking than the 5.0? Picture?:D:D

55 seconds, constant boost, constant rpm, the screw compressor will hold temp steady. Doesn't matter what size screw, they will stabilize in approx. 30 seconds steady state.

The 8.3 is identical in dimensions, just driven off the large gear, vs. small gear. Meaning the rotors are mirrored. 2.3 and 3.3 are driven off the large gear, which drives the female rotor. The 5.0 liter drives off the small gear, male rotor. 8.3 is like the smaller scs, drives off the big gear, female rotor. There is a 66% difference in blower speed.


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