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powerqrudy 06-15-2008 12:29 PM

Tired motor ?
 
last year I had to tune turn the idle up because it would barely run at 650 rpms. Then it would not shift out of drive being that I had it to high, I turned it down. Now it has a harder time starting at such a low RPM. This motor is a 1986 in a older 23 Powerplay. I am thinking that the motor may be getting tired... or really just the cam ? it does not burn any oil and a few years back it had some oil pressure issues and I thougth it might be the gauge and got it back to the marina and it was the oil filter. That was 2002 ?

any ideas ?

Thanks,

Steve

Rookie 06-15-2008 12:39 PM

Engine? Carb? Setup would help.
Carb rebuild time? power valve?

Does it run good when off idle? have you lost performance (besides idle)

powerqrudy 06-15-2008 12:49 PM

Yes, carb rebuid a couple of years ago.

350- 260HP

New cap, rotor, wires and plugs in the last 2 years.

this thing use to crank 4800 now maybee 4200 RPM ?

baja36ft 06-15-2008 01:40 PM

do a comp test.... plugs should be done at 50 hrs.....

Knot 4 Me 06-16-2008 01:49 PM

Do a leakdown test. Might be time for a valve job.

powerqrudy 06-16-2008 03:07 PM

ok, at what point do I just yank it and put in a new one ?

if the cam is shot and it needs a valve job ?

maybee the cam is ok??

keep them comming ...the advoise that is.

thanks,

Steve

baja36ft 06-16-2008 04:31 PM

i have a 454 just rebuilt i will sell you....

powerqrudy 06-16-2008 07:31 PM

would it even swap right in with a Alpha ?

what year and model

330HP

365 HP

420HP

baja36ft 06-16-2008 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by powerqrudy (Post 2591858)
would it even swap right in with a Alpha ?

what year and model

330HP

365 HP

420HP

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Budz Motorsports 06-17-2008 08:10 AM

Sounds like it might have a vacum leak. That is usually the case with and idle problem like that. The carb might be wore out. Throttle shafts worn? causing a leak maybe. but look into that.

hoozeyurdaddy 06-17-2008 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by powerqrudy (Post 2590407)
last year I had to tune turn the idle up because it would barely run at 650 rpms. Then it would not shift out of drive being that I had it to high, I turned it down. Now it has a harder time starting at such a low RPM. This motor is a 1986 in a older 23 Powerplay. I am thinking that the motor may be getting tired... or really just the cam ? it does not burn any oil and a few years back it had some oil pressure issues and I thougth it might be the gauge and got it back to the marina and it was the oil filter. That was 2002 ?

any ideas ?

Thanks,

Steve

22 years old, how many hour's? It may be time, compression test, leak down, if either is not up to par, rebuild it. if it's leaking thru the heads or pistons, It's just time to bit the bullet.
thats my 2 cents
Larrry

Chris Sunkin 06-17-2008 09:00 AM

Compression test gives you a quick snapshot of whether it's a cylinder or top-end wear issue. Leakdown is a better diagnostic tool for determining where the problem lies. I always put a dial indiicator on the rockers to see if I have cam wear- it's not uncommon at all to see worn lobes on these engines.

I would not suggest a big block on an Alpha. Merc tried it and smoked alot of drives. Much over 300 horse is going to shorten the life of a fresh one. If yours hasn't been open in a while, it's safe to assume the clearances are widened- adding power is the last thing it needs.

powerqrudy 06-17-2008 06:47 PM

Yes, it does have a rebuilt carb like 6 seasons ago. But I do have a Performer RPM with a adapter plate ...could that be a issue ?

Yea it may be time...to bite the bullet.


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