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ezstriper 10-14-2008 06:12 AM

the 2 gen IV's I pulled out of my gibson(92) had the front oil galley plugs drilled from the factory, engines never been apart, and no bearing under the gears...Rob

Mr Gadgets 10-14-2008 03:15 PM

Vinny how much streach in the chain? It shouldnt have much. Maybe pick it up holding it at opposite ends and see how much it sags in the middle. I can do the same with mine and see if it relates. But mine is .400" raised cam. Just a thought.
Dick

Vinny P 10-14-2008 07:33 PM

Sorry Dick, but the parts are already on their way back to Bob Madera. I can say that the chain had very little play in it. I checked it by pulling it tight by twisting the crank a bit, then wiggling the slack side. It seemed fine to me.

The good news.. I pulled all my main and rod bearings. Everything looked good, so I put it all back together. The oil pump looked good, but I ordered a new Melling blueprinted pump anyway.

Mr Gadgets 10-14-2008 10:16 PM

Vinny,
I sent you some pics..
Dick

2112 10-15-2008 01:23 AM

Vinny,

Have you considered using a belt driven external wet sump pump? Not all the room needed as for a dry sump and you get the load off the timing chain/cam &dist gears and drive shaft. I made the change for those reasons and still use my wet sump pan.

.

PatriYacht 10-15-2008 08:23 AM

I use Cloyes timing sets and have never had a problem. Still look like new after 150 hours turning a high volume Melling pump. I would question the quality of the timing set and look for something binding somewhere

PatriYacht 10-15-2008 08:31 AM

Was the oil pump driveshaft taken out at the same time? If so, I would wonder about the oil pump. Cavitation?

Vinny P 10-15-2008 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by PatriYacht (Post 2716024)
Was the oil pump driveshaft taken out at the same time? If so, I would wonder about the oil pump. Cavitation?

After suspecting a broken timing gear and tearing down the engine, I discovered the broken oil pump drive and the damaged timing gear.

Vinny P 10-15-2008 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by PatriYacht (Post 2716011)
I use Cloyes timing sets and have never had a problem. Still look like new after 150 hours turning a high volume Melling pump. I would question the quality of the timing set and look for something binding somewhere

I agree, I think this gear set was a P.O.S. It almost cost me an engine. The cam spins free in the block, dont feel it was a binding issue. I am going to run a new oil pump for sure.

Vinny P 10-15-2008 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by 2112 (Post 2715890)
Vinny,

Have you considered using a belt driven external wet sump pump? Not all the room needed as for a dry sump and you get the load off the timing chain/cam &dist gears and drive shaft. I made the change for those reasons and still use my wet sump pan.

.

No I didnt, but thats an interesting thought. I have never seen anyone run one on a boat before. I dont think I would do it, but just curious, do you have a few pictures of that set-up?


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