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Ethanol
We are starting to see 10% ethanol in
fuels here in Florida. Is there an additive that you can use in this fuel for long term storage? |
I have used Startron's Enzyme Cleaner/preservative. It supposedly breaks down any fuel phase separation into small burnable particles.
I will warn you however, that in my big boat it helped but I still needed to install Racor fuel filters prior to the the water seps to keep from clogging the micro filter at the carbs. Even after taking those steps, this spring I am pumping out my tanks to minimize the old fuel. This stinks because I am holding about 300 gallons right now. I am in Chicago, I would assume the fuel in Florida, would be harder to keep moisture and mold out of the tanks. Fo my 2 cents if you are going to store for a an extended time I would empty the tanks down to 1/4 pour in a bunch of additive. At least then when you fill later the bulk of your fuel is new. Part of the problem with ethanol is its lack of preservative. It loses 10-12% of its efficiency if it sits for more than 2 months. Dont know if any of this helps but as a guy who lost this season due to old fuel, and after trying to burn and add, burn and add, I am still going to pay $3.00 a gallon to pump it out and then refill (575 gallons) in the spring. Best advice is to keep using the boat and keep the gas moving through the system. |
Originally Posted by myturn
(Post 2724510)
We are starting to 10% and 20% ethanol in
fuels here in Florida. Is there an additive that you can use in this fuel for long term storage? |
Originally Posted by Beak Boater
(Post 2724590)
Are they putting it in the fuel at Marina's also. When we we in Jax. for the Poker run, the Marina where we put the boat on the trailer, one of the guys working their saw our MD numbers and made it a point to tell us they have no ethanol in fuel at Marinas. Maybe that has changed since June.
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I saw an ad for Stabil Marine additive. Supposedly for fuel with Ethanol. I haven't used it yet but will probably buy some in the next couple weeks.
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It really varies by state. I boat in couple of different states, and they have completely different laws regarding ethanol in gas.
One state only has ethanol in 89 octane on the road, while another state has ethanol in all their gas except that sold for marine or aviation use. |
Originally Posted by sleek1
(Post 2724736)
I saw an ad for Stabil Marine additive. Supposedly for fuel with Ethanol. I haven't used it yet but will probably buy some in the next couple weeks.
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You know Marine is a nasty word. As soon as I see it on a product I translate it to mean "costs at least twice as much.":rolleyes:
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Regular red Sta-Bil works just fine. Been using it for 10 + years and with E10 gas.
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remember that the ethanol is not only an oxygenate but octane as well. so you can treat fuel so it dose not turn to varnish but the ethanol still evaporates. this leaves you with a decision, treat the fuel and deal with ultra low octane fuel in the spring. or use it up or pump it out. otherwise the engine will run on the stuff but the risk of damage due to low octane is not worth it.
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mercruiser link
The link below is to mercruiser's site:
http://northamerica.mercurymarine.co.../ethanol.php#1 As I read it 10% Ethanol is all that is legal to sell in the US, and Mercruisers will run OK. I have my own fuel tank out by my dock. I am going to call my fuel dealer tomorrow to see what he has in stock. Warren |
Originally Posted by mrv8outboard
(Post 2725733)
remember that the ethanol is not only an oxygenate but octane as well. so you can treat fuel so it dose not turn to varnish but the ethanol still evaporates. this leaves you with a decision, treat the fuel and deal with ultra low octane fuel in the spring. or use it up or pump it out. otherwise the engine will run on the stuff but the risk of damage due to low octane is not worth it.
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Originally Posted by mrv8outboard
(Post 2725733)
remember that the ethanol is not only an oxygenate but octane as well. so you can treat fuel so it dose not turn to varnish but the ethanol still evaporates. this leaves you with a decision, treat the fuel and deal with ultra low octane fuel in the spring. or use it up or pump it out. otherwise the engine will run on the stuff but the risk of damage due to low octane is not worth it.
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One problem is you really dont know if your getting ethanol, or not, even it the attendant tells you its ethanol free. Not all states are required to mark the pumps if they dispense blended fuels. With my sons Skater ethanol is death to the fiberglass tanks. For $25.00 you can buy a reusable tester that takes less than 3 min. to use and is drop dead simple. If you are really curious to know how much ethanol is in the fuel.
http://www.fuel-testers.com/ |
Originally Posted by Beak Boater
(Post 2728348)
One problem is you really dont know if your getting ethanol, or not, even it the attendant tells you its ethanol free. Not all states are required to mark the pumps if they dispense blended fuels. With my sons Skater ethanol is death to the fiberglass tanks. For $25.00 you can buy a reusable tester that takes less than 3 min. to use and is drop dead simple. If you are really curious to know how much ethanol is in the fuel.
http://www.fuel-testers.com/ Thanks, I just ordered two kits. Apparently Florida has just switched to E10. I am still hopeful my fuel distributer can get non-ethanol fuel. Warren |
Blue StaBil. Costlier than the red, but it's more concentrated and treats more fuel.
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My fuel supplier said he will be able to
get me some non-ethanol fuel. I think this is only a stop gap. I think the hand writing is on the wall that we will eventually have to deal with 10% ethanol. |
E10
I just got my first load of E10. Almost everyone here in Florida is recommending Sta-Bil for marine use. I am going to try it. I will let you know how it works.
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Ethanol 10 Percent
I pick up this stuff called STA-BIL ETHANOL TREATMENT MARINE FORMULA 32oz treats 320 gals :cool:
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