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ZP'd 11-09-2008 09:46 AM

496 sea water pump question!
 
Can someone tell me if the bearing shaft assembly on the 496sea water pump should have a inward/outward movement at all? I have mine reassembled and there seems to be approx 1/16-1/8" of movement in and out. Never checked the old one before dissasembly..
Rear oil seal, tolerance ring and retainer/seal are new along with the housings!

twanger 11-09-2008 01:38 PM

That is how mine failed. I think mine got up to 1/2" axial play. I don't there is much when meeting spec I would say 1/8" is on the high side. Mine was so much the serp belt would slip off.

ZP'd 11-10-2008 09:13 AM

Thanks twanger, I've looked to see if there are any tolerance specs out there somewhere but no luck so far.
May live with it and see what happens.

Pwrbt33 11-10-2008 05:13 PM

I dont recall any movement in and out on a sea pump, just the power steering pump.

waconda 11-10-2008 05:20 PM

Do you have the brass pump? There should be no end play in it at all.

ZP'd 11-10-2008 07:12 PM

Yea the wonderful high tech Merc brass pump for the 496HO.

Raylar 11-11-2008 10:08 AM

There should not be an 1/8" end play in a fully assembled pump. If you have that much play, take the pump off and check internally, somethings not quite right.
Best Regards,
Ray @ raylar

twanger 11-13-2008 10:16 AM

Raylar-what is the answer to this? Is there an upgrade to this pump? I have a single engine boat and carry a pump ready to slap in when something goes wrong.

Raylar 11-15-2008 06:08 PM

The end play in this pump could actually a combination of the bearing and shaft fitment as well as some from the wear on the impellor to the back plate of the pump impellor housing. If you have a bearing going out that is creating a fore aft excess play you've got to take the pump apart and check the bearing and shaft. If the impellor is worn into the back plate with deep grooving then a machine shop can mill the back plate flat again and you can install a new impellor. You can also check with the guys at R&R performance in Lake Havasu Arizona as they make a new impellor and stainless endplate replacement kit for this pump that can save most of the worn pumps. Its cheaper than buying a new pump and a bit more durable!
Good Luck.
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

Escape Velocity 11-20-2008 05:30 PM

I "upgraded" my 496 water pump with the R&R kit a couple of years ago due to deep grooves in the brass and their stainless end plates are holding up really well.

QWKRN U 11-22-2008 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Escape Velocity (Post 2743966)
I "upgraded" my 496 water pump with the R&R kit a couple of years ago due to deep grooves in the brass and their stainless end plates are holding up really well.

Where did you get the kits?

Raylar 11-22-2008 05:56 PM

R&R Products, Lake Havasu Arizona, (928) 453-6411
www.randrproducts.net
Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

QWKRN U 12-02-2008 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by Raylar (Post 2745274)
R&R Products, Lake Havasu Arizona, (928) 453-6411
www.randrproducts.net
Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

Do they ever reply to email inquires or answer the phone? Been trying to reach them for a few weeks to get pricing info on the kits.

Naughty Kitty 05-15-2012 11:52 AM

Anyone have a supplier on just the bearings for the pump shaft? I can find dozens of suppliers of the assembly (shaft and bearings), but I only need the bearings as mine is developing a slight squeak.

Naughty Kitty 06-06-2012 12:59 PM

I first tried the R&R kit couple years ago and ended up replacing the pump. Before going down this path again, with the exception of trying the Hardin marine pumps I tried Aftermarket Marine after talking with Buddy there. They have a kit very similar to the Hardin one that uses a impeller .070" smaller than stock to compensate for the .070" SS plate in the end of the motor. The R&R one, used the stock impeller and a bunch more shims to compensate. Aftermarket also has all the bearings, seals and shafts to completely rebuild the pump to new. for information: http://www.amarket.com/impemerc.htm

The quality/fit are very good and I just ordered another kit as back up for the other motor.


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