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ezstriper 12-02-2008 03:51 PM

Ray, great read...and very true..

TexomaPowerboater 12-02-2008 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by handfulz28 (Post 2750527)
I've been poking around Indmar's website. 400hp Gen IV SBCs. I wonder if part of their supply agreement with GM prevents them from competing with Mercury?

http://www.indmar.com/ProductLine/Ma...Y-6/index.html

http://www.indmar.com/ProductLine/In...-SS/index.html

I just gone done speaking with one of their dealers. Apparantly Indmar doesn't sell those engines unless they are going into a new boat??????? They said its too complicated for repowers?????? That doesn't sound right, but I couldn't find any pricing either.

bor 12-08-2008 03:49 PM

tried several times to contact raylar by e mail,pm or phone but no response ,so the market is flat but if you don t answer to people who are interested in the products it stay flat,if you don t want to sell overseas just say so ,

sorry I am a little disapointed , hope there s a reason for this issue.

nocigarette 12-08-2008 06:40 PM

Car guys always forgets this statement you made ---- "putting them under constant high torque and power loads pushes... "
A marine engine is a totally different animal......Christ !!! how many times does this have to be discussed......This is why i got to serious offshore .com....

TexomaPowerboater 12-08-2008 06:48 PM

http://www.michiganmotorz.com/Marine...+sterndrive%29
http://www.bayshorepowermarine.com/e.../crusader.html

Some 6.0's by marine power and crusader. I know they have international dealers. Both are 375hp 6.0's, and both have a 2 year warranty.

Westcoast 12-08-2008 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by bor (Post 2755301)
tried several times to contact raylar by e mail,pm or phone but no response ,so the market is flat but if you don t answer to people who are interested in the products it stay flat,if you don t want to sell overseas just say so ,

sorry I am a little disapointed , hope there s a reason for this issue.

Raylar does alot of business overseas...I'm sure Ray will get back to you.

liquidlounge 12-08-2008 09:12 PM

It's all been done before.......
 
This thread is reminiscent of the pre 496(8.1) launch. Doubters and naysayers on this very forum declared the 496 too complex, too weak parts, smaller bore diminishes airflow, buy your 502 mag while you still can, etc.,etc. Guess what? The 496 has proven itself to be a durable performer. The supercharged LSX will be engineered by GM with greater durability than any of the Merc HP packages, you can count on this. Adding pressure to a motor with existing technology in the aftermarket is a far cry from an as designed, team developed package that would eminate from a major automaker. Sure, someone like Ray or Bob Teague can make you a nice low volume motor, but the 2 of them put together couldn't even supply one decent sized boat builder. A custom design philosophy is left for those who can apprecite (and afford) it. Again, if this motor is released, it will have GREAT durability. This motor is now a better fit for GM as the economy of scale is rendering the 496 obselete(in the production sense). Take Care, Dave

bor 12-09-2008 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Westcoast (Post 2755424)
Raylar does alot of business overseas...I'm sure Ray will get back to you.


yes he did indead ,so everything solved and crystal clear!!

thanks ray!!

4mulafastech 12-09-2008 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by liquidlounge (Post 2755570)
This thread is reminiscent of the pre 496(8.1) launch. Doubters and naysayers on this very forum declared the 496 too complex, too weak parts, smaller bore diminishes airflow, buy your 502 mag while you still can, etc.,etc. Guess what? The 496 has proven itself to be a durable performer. The supercharged LSX will be engineered by GM with greater durability than any of the Merc HP packages, you can count on this. Adding pressure to a motor with existing technology in the aftermarket is a far cry from an as designed, team developed package that would eminate from a major automaker. Sure, someone like Ray or Bob Teague can make you a nice low volume motor, but the 2 of them put together couldn't even supply one decent sized boat builder. A custom design philosophy is left for those who can apprecite (and afford) it. Again, if this motor is released, it will have GREAT durability. This motor is now a better fit for GM as the economy of scale is rendering the 496 obselete(in the production sense). Take Care, Dave


The 496 doesn't require premium fuel. They will need to figure out how to be durable using regular fuel if they hope to be widely commercialized. My 2-cents.:drink:

Tow-N-One 12-09-2008 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by sug (Post 2750622)
For 2008 malibu boats has for sale a 20.5 foot corvete boat with the z06 505 hp motor. They made 125 of these. Not smart enough to show link sorry.

Longjevity was not that big of an issue with this boat. It is more of a colectors piece. I know I wouldnt spend $110k on a skiboat and go skiing in it every weekend.


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2751410)
I just gone done speaking with one of their dealers. Apparantly Indmar doesn't sell those engines unless they are going into a new boat??????? They said its too complicated for repowers?????? That doesn't sound right, but I couldn't find any pricing either.

They build alot for ski boats manufacturers. I have wondered the same thing. They have some stout small blocks. I have the 320 hp, ran it in a poker run, 5000 rpm all day @ 50.1mph :drink: and it never missed a beat nor had any other issues.


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