a bad joke???
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Wohin findet man Österreich ausführen Sie eingeschaltet?

Flegs is the same hull I have, same as the taller deck 320 88-89 years not the ES, it was a totally different animal. The one in the video is also a Force/Caliber hull

Some boats have pads, but most do not. Velocity's use a pad with great results.

bad translation program:drink:
cannot find sense in this sentence, sorry

my pad is just 6 inch wide!!! i will call carl imn worms tomorrow!

i would like to post a picture, but have no idea, how!!!:eek:

I like to send or post a picture of the bottom of my boat, photografed from the back to somebody who knows about the problem.

There is nothing wrong with the 320es. It is a great boat. You just need to have k-plane tabs & outward rotating propellers to keep it stable.
You can put 600hp a side in it & be just fine.
If you are thinking there is a problem with the bottom, you are just mistaken. The bottom of that boat has a pad on it. Think of a "v" & take the point off the bottom & replace it with a straight line. That is what the bottom of the boat looks like. Lots of boats have a pad.
It won't be an issue if you put on the k-planes & turn the propellers outward.

It is not a "problem"

It is just the way it is. Its a Baja 320ES. Its not a Cig Top Gun. It may not be the best design, but it will be fine. There is no reason to throw money at it and do major changes to the bottom.

Since you've never driven the boat,
wait til it gets warm enough, then drive it.

You'll then be able to relate to what we're talking about
handling wise.

Big tabs, outside rotation, ex.steering, bottom work
are all good ideas, and will probably help some,
but it still doesnt solve the issue of it having a
high center of gravity for it's 30' length.

Learn and enjoy the boat in it's current form,
and when you decide that you want to go faster,
pick a different chassis, one that is more suited for
80+ mph speeds.

Mine had 280 K's and props turning out. It still sucked.

Did you ever go like this???
'

That's what it feeels like when it "falls off the pad"

did this "fall off the pad" ever happen to a OSO member here or has anyone seen this?
i mean: did the passengers fall out, did the boat sink, was it demaged or was it just a little ooouuupppps and the boat came back.

i did not find anything on youtube. just want to figure out what could happen to me and my family.

Learn the boat, I am sure you will be fine, I would not throw any more power at it till you know the boat well, period.

correct, thats what i want to do, but:

did this "fall off the pad" ever happen to a OSO member here or has anyone seen this?

Not sure of the fall off the pad thing, but the boat would not have been built if it was a safety hazard, I agree maybe it is not the most stable thing but once you learn the boat and feel it yourself only you will know how to handle it.

Falling off the pad can happen on any boat with a pad bottom.
It is not catastorphic. It will just make the boat lean to one side.

You really need to relax and quit worrying about stuff. The boat is 18 years old and hasn't sunk or flipped yet, so I'm sure it will be fine.

Like everybody has said. Just go drive it and used to it. There is absolutely no reason to worry about changing things until you find something you don't like.

The boat is not a 200k Cigarette. Don't try to make it into one by throwing money at.

so you think, i will not sink with the boat.:ernaehrung004:

I gotta know. Have you ever owned a boat before?

I hope so, not sure I woud "start" with a twin engine offshore boat..

its my third boat, but all together i have not more than 10 hours time in the boats. no much experience, but my last post was just a joke.

my english is really bad, sorry.

Read post #11 again...that was my experience
while driving one when it fell off the pad.


Just go drive the boat.....you'll then be able to
experience it's handling characteristics, and you'll
probably figure out that this isnt the boat you want
to try to go 80+ mph in.

MY english ain't so great either.:ernaehrung004:

Wow! 67 posts on is twin 500's too much power in a 32 foot boat.

You need to as yourself is your friend worried about your safety or you dusting his azz with twin 500's? :evilb:

If your ok with sailboats passing you at wide open you could stick with the 454's

this is the real question. :ernaehrung004:

LOL:evilb:

Hey Outlawinil, check your PM inbox and let me know, please.

It just takes too much dam HP to make it go fast, that's why it may not be the best 80+ mph boat. As far as ahandling goes, unless I missed it, in this entire thread there is no mention of external steering or a hydraulic helm to make the Baja's handle better. If the boat boat drops to one side when at WOT drop the tab on that side, and learn how to drive it. I drove an 85+ mph 27' magnum for 18 years, and it took some getting used to. A 32' Baja with twin 500 hp's is a decent combo. There are a few 32' Baja hot rod's around in the Northeast that allegedly run in the 90's, and those owner's got it sorted out.

yes, i think this should be solved with lightly dropped tabs. thats why i ordered big EM tabs 12 x 24 and through the little 10 x 10 instatrims out.

There are 2 types of 32' Baja's

The 320 ES style ( top photo) is a 30' boat with a molded
swim platform.
It's tall profile and pad bottom contibute to it's handling
quirks......they handle goofy with stock power, adding
anything more would just make it worse

The 320 Force, 32 Magnum, 32 Caliber, 32 Outlaw
( sometimes called 32 flat deck)
( bottom photo) are a true 32' boat, no pad.

This model is much more popular, and doesnt have the
handling quirks the ES does.... 500's in these boats are
not a problem...they handle it well.....if they're running
in the 90's, it's probably this model, not the ES.

One of the alleged 90 mph+ Baja's I was referring to in my earlier post is like the one in the picture on the right with Texas registration numbers. Yes, you are right about the handling. My father and I raced Baja 32' like that one. It ran OK and handled OK at 80 mph, the Baja owner we raced just ran out of horsepower (mph) in that race.

With respect to the taller boat with the pad; take the play out of the steering system with external steering and a hydraulic helm and it will be a whole lot more user friendly, and drive better at higher speeds. But once you add the $$$ for the 500's, steering, props, it may be worth more for those parts than what the whole boat is worth, but that is not out of the ordinary for performance boaters. I readily admit I do not know sh*t about that ES model Baja, but I believe handling problems can be addressed and remedied to a certain extent, maybe not 100%.

You did clear up the difference in the models, thanks.

PS. About five or six years ago we raced a 27' or 28' Baja with a similar deck design of that ES model. I thought the model was an Islander, I am not entirely sure, and I amot sure if the bottom was straight V with or without pad. I am sure of the following: the owner had time and money invested on building a huge hp blower motor, 1000 hp. It was a real sleeper. We could not get around that boat, we raced it twice. Handling, which I expected to be a concern once that single engine Baja got in the upper 80's/90 mph+ did not materialize, I was impressed. He could drive it pretty good, and it didn't do anything quirky. I wrote that because I believe, based on past experience and observation, that these handling problems can be fixed (steering, bottom-work) it all depends on how much of your own labor and or dollars you can afford.

thanks for the lot of informations, which give me a new view on the things about handling the boat. the good things is, that i do not go for racing with it and i can save the money for bigger engines and invest in steering and other stuff. then will see if i will be able to love the rig or not.

thanks again to you all.
chris