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Fenderjack 03-25-2009 09:23 PM

msd boxes
 
Is it really necessary to run the blue marine MSD boxes.I have two new Red MSD boxes.Hate to have to get new ones if I can use what I have. Thanks JOHN

GPM 03-25-2009 10:16 PM

I had nothing but problems with the Marine box, switched to the digital 4 years ago, works great.

TC 03-25-2009 10:45 PM

Ive been running a 6AL for 600 plus hours without any problems. I believe the marine version is epoxy potted to help protect it against moisture and vibration in the marine environment.

mike tkach 03-25-2009 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by Fenderjack (Post 2829253)
Is it really necessary to run the blue marine MSD boxes.I have two new Red MSD boxes.Hate to have to get new ones if I can use what I have. Thanks JOHN

i have used the red box in a boat,but it didn,t last long,it can,t take the pounding&vibration,the blue box is made to handle the abuse of the marine inviorment.:evilb:

AO31 03-25-2009 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 2829310)
i have used the red box in a boat,but it didn,t last long,it can,t take the pounding&vibration,the blue box is made to handle the abuse of the marine inviorment.:evilb:

True, vibration will hurt it but, mounted on a platform with some rubber isolators I've got 545 hrs on mine and still going!

articfriends 03-26-2009 01:25 AM

I was a supporter of msd and bought many msd boxes thru the years for my own projects and customers stuff UNTIL I made the MISTAKE of buying a msd marine box. Their quality control is GARBAGE,the first box acted like it had a built in rev limiter and quit randomly,the second box (a replacement) was nothing but problems,spent hours on the phone with their tech guys,they ALWAYS blasmed my install which I re-did several times for no reason. The third box showed up (second replacement) and by then I bought a msd tester,guess what-IT WOULD NOT WORK AT ALL. I put the tester on the second box and it would work intermittently as you wiggle the harness where it entered the casing. When I called msd for the 50th time and told them the third box was DOA and what was happening with the 2nd box they could no longer blame the way I installed it. You would figure they would want the batch numbers off the bad boxes right so they could figure out if there was a factory issue,they had zero interest and told me to just send it back AGAIN. I ended up giving up and swapping to a different brand,have had ZERO problems since and refuse to buy any more msd 6 boxes,at least the marine version,Smitty

Wildchild212 03-26-2009 02:13 AM

Go with a digital box. That is the only thing that will up hold to the pounding of a boat.

Fenderjack 03-26-2009 06:03 AM

boxes
 
By digital, do mean a msd digtial or something else. What is the number. Thanks John

GPM 03-26-2009 06:50 AM

MSD Digital 6, uses less power to run, puts out more to the plugs. Summit Racing has them.

ROTAX454 03-26-2009 07:01 AM

You may try this site for MSD repair services on your ignition boxes. I had read on a previous thread something to the effect of this company repairing the "weak link" in the #6 box. After their repair/upgrade, the box is a very good component. Perhaps worth an email inquiry.
http://www.rapidracingelectronics.com/

rssteiny 03-26-2009 07:08 AM

I have the blue boxes on my boat 5 years now no problems.

ezstriper 03-26-2009 07:17 AM

well my opinion on them is what I told one of their reps at the race track one day when he was looking at my car and asked why I was not running there stuff even though I had their decal on the car ?? told him we needed 3....one on the car, one in the trailer as a spare, one back with you guys getting repaired !!! and it's only gotten worse since then !!! 1st off they are not going to make your boat any faster, may idle a bit better..maybe..the only good thing if it is a L with a rev limiter..but they are available as a stand alone unit if you need it. Some people have good luch with them but there are a lot that just fail whenver they feel like it !!! hence my term for them MSD...may soon die....Rob

mike tkach 03-26-2009 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by AO31 (Post 2829313)
True, vibration will hurt it but, mounted on a platform with some rubber isolators I've got 545 hrs on mine and still going!

mine was mounted with the rubber isolator studs,still didn,t last long for me.i went to the blue box.:ernaehrung004:

AO31 03-26-2009 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 2829462)
mine was mounted with the rubber isolator studs,still didn,t last long for me.i went to the blue box.:ernaehrung004:

Some guys like to mount them on the motor where I not sure if the isolators would be enough.

articfriends 03-27-2009 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by ROTAX454 (Post 2829389)
You may try this site for MSD repair services on your ignition boxes. I had read on a previous thread something to the effect of this company repairing the "weak link" in the #6 box. After their repair/upgrade, the box is a very good component. Perhaps worth an email inquiry.
http://www.rapidracingelectronics.com/

Thanks for the link,my red msd 6 box lasted 8 years in the boat until it got thumped hard on the concrete at the end of a dyno session,hence the beginning of my blue marine box nightmare. I'm going to send it in to get fixed now,Smitty


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